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Posted by lispybanana 10/22/2024

The Tragedy of Google Books (2017)(www.theatlantic.com)
503 points | 179 commentspage 4
andrewstuart 10/22/2024|
Google must be tempted to put them in an LLM.
bborud 10/22/2024|
It would surprise me greatly if they haven't already.
johnobrien1010 10/23/2024||
Another reason that they should never have been allowed to ingest all the books in the first place. Without paying for the rights to use the digital form of the book, a use which is explicitly prohibited by the publisher, they digitized the books anyway. If they used it to train an LLM, and the LLM regurgitates near facsimiles of all the copyrighted works without compensation to the original rights holders, that seems like something that should be illegal.
renewiltord 10/24/2024|
Good. It’s important that free access not be permitted. We don’t know what personal data might be contained within. We should only allow those works after a human (appropriately certified) has verified that no personal data exists within.

If it exists within the book must be destroyed in its entirety. Too many works of so-called scholarship have relied on the personal letters of dead people.

We should not reward grave robbing. The most important thing is the personal data. We must protect the personal data.

mparnisari 10/24/2024|
> We don’t know what personal data might be contained within

You really think that a book author doesn't know that whatever they put on a book will stay there forever?

What a weird take :p

renewiltord 10/24/2024||
They could have put other people’s personal data in. The only thing that matters is personal data. We have a right to making sure it’s removed. Once these massive privacy risks are dealt with we can start again. But only after we have a comprehensive report of the environmental consequences of this.

We’ve all had enough of people just stomping over our rights in this move fast and break things / ask forgiveness instead of permission crap.

Do it right. And respectfully instead of abusing people’s data.