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Posted by thimabi 10/23/2024

Never Missing the Train Again(lilymara.xyz)
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alsodumb 10/24/2024|
This sounds like a fun project, but there are existing apps whose default page is "when is the next bus/train coming up on stops near me"

Transit App (https://transitapp.com/) is one of them and I freaking love their interface overall. This app's default view shows you the next bus (in either directions) at the 3-4 transit stops closest to your current location. And you can customize/add favs too. It's a beautiful app, also allows for multi/mixed-modal route planning (part walking, part bike, part bus).

parl_match 10/24/2024||
To be honest, I found having something physical and on the wall and always present _really_ helpful. When the train/bus comes every 15 minutes, being able to casually look and see if you should make a dash for it is way better than pulling out your phone, bringing up an app, and entering your destination.
mattegan 10/25/2024|||
Plugging my own project here [1] for SF's Muni to say I 100% agree with you - the phone is a trap! There's something so charming about having a thing you know you can look at anytime and __no matter what__ it's doing exactly what you expect it to be doing.

[1]: https://github.com/mattegan/muniscreen

parl_match 10/28/2024||
thats a cool project!

i would kill for the transit app experience, with an eink display, and battery measured in weeks

alsodumb 10/24/2024|||
Oh yeah of course, I personally have a physical screen that shows live feed from my local transit agency's GTFS real time feed. I was just pointing out the app for those who don't have the time/interest to build something physical.
spuz 10/24/2024||
Thanks - this is exactly what I need especially the widget which displays nearby upcoming trains and buses on the home screen.
sourcepluck 10/24/2024||
A. "Busses" should be "buses", I think? Or am I stepping into a holy war... Maybe it's a British vs American English thing, but a quick look says that Merriam-Webster agrees. Maybe it's a choice by the author, in which case, fair enough. If I was the author, I'd prefer knowing, anyway.

B. Super cool article! I've an old Nook somewhere being neglected which I am now moving up my list of devices to do some messing with and find a use for. Excellent stuff.

rsynnott 10/25/2024||
'Buses' is probably more standard, but 'busses' as a plural noun is common enough that it's probably not worth making a fuss about. The great/terrible thing about English is that there is no central authority; if people use it, it is English.
Terr_ 10/24/2024||
Yeah, IMO the plural noun is "buses", while "busses" is a conjugated verb, ex:

"When the regular buses aren't running, he busses people around in the minivan."

BalinKing 10/24/2024||
The OED says that "busses" is an acceptable plural in American English (I haven't read the article though, so I don't know what dialect the author speaks/writes).
Terr_ 10/24/2024||
> You might see the plural busses, but that form is so rare that it seems like an error to many people. [...] When the word bus was new, the two plurals were in competition, but buses overtook busses in frequency in the 1930s, and today is the overwhelming choice of writers and editors.

-- https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/plural-of-bus

Went ahead and used Google Ngram viewer to show the popularity difference, with some context-words to ensure it's comparing cases where a plural noun is being used:

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=the+busses%2C+...

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=multiple+busse...

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=took+buses%2C+...

sourcepluck 10/24/2024||
Ooh nice, I didn't know that Ngram tool! I've heard references to word frequency but didn't know where to do it. Thanks for jumping in with a bit of analysis.

Of course, if USA-based anglophones want to continue using a particular spelling or pronunciation, we know we don't have the power to stop them. I bow out of this one.

ksenzee 10/25/2024||
In this case, we really, really don’t want to continue using “busses” as a plural noun. Merriam-Webster is the authority. We’d rather fight our holy war over labor and center.
rendall 10/25/2024|||
The buses spelling looks to me like it should rhyme with fuses. Busses has the virtue of not... doing that.
sourcepluck 10/25/2024||
Ehh... Cough, tough, bough, lough, slough, and rough called, they wanted to know when English phonology became logical and consistent, and why no one informed them about it?
rendall 10/25/2024||
Rough and cough have different sounds so... buses is the winner? Not seeing the connection.
NeoTar 10/25/2024|||
-ough notoriously has anywhere between four and twelve different pronunciations (if you count strange example with a limited number of words, like hiccough for hiccup).

The point I believe the parent post is making is that you cannot assume that buses would rhyme with fuses, because English orthography is so inconsistent.

Which is partially true - I haven’t seen any research to the effect, but I’d guess you can still predict the pronunciation of an English word with better than a fifty percent chance of success.

sourcepluck 10/25/2024|||
Sorry, I thought it'd be obvious that all those -ough words have different pronunciations (for most people, anyway, I think) and that I'd be making my point clearly and lightheartedly. I was just saying that English spelling isn't always "guessable", or how you think it logically should be. [Even though it may well be guessable the majority of the time, as another responder points out, for some reason].

The fact you think "busses" is a preferable spelling to "buses" because it might help you pronounce "buses" differently to "fuses" is only relevant to you yourself. I would have thought this was tautological, myself.

In summary, we could avoid all these fusses with a bit of effort to adhere to accepted usage.

sourcepluck 10/25/2024|||
I sympathizzze he-ugely with what you're saying, as "busses" looks very strange to me, I admit.
AStonesThrow 10/25/2024||
"Buss" is an archaic word for a kiss, so "busses" looks like a verb straight outta Shakespeare to me!
clin222 10/24/2024||
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