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Posted by zesfy 10/23/2024

Show HN: I built a task manager that separates "do" and "due" dates(apps.apple.com)
Hi HN,

I’m the founder of Zesfy, a productivity app that I’ve been developing over the past few years. It’s designed to seamlessly integrate your tasks with your calendar, allowing you to transform your to-do lists into actionable events in just seconds. Here are some of its key features:

  - Task Progress: Automatically update your progress based on subtasks completed
  - Step: Create step-by-step breakdown of the subtask
  - Target: Organize tasks with due date
  - Session: Insert multiple tasks to calendar event
  - Space: Filter event from specific sets of calendars
I recently introduced new features that often missing from other productivity apps: the ability to set both “Do” and “Due” dates. With these features, you can effortlessly plan your tasks for the day while keeping track the upcoming due dates. What makes Zesfy unique is it separates tasks you’ve planned and those that are already scheduled in your calendar, giving you a more organized and flexible workflow.

App Store: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/zesfy-planner-calendar/id64799...

160 points | 82 comments
thenaturalist 10/23/2024|
I have ADHD and hence am generally quite interested in apps in this space.

Maybe it's just me but I found the app controls to be way too small, too many onboarding walk through steps and way too much information density in the Task screen.

Progress, Highlight, Due Date, different lists - it's a lot.

It seems to me you wanted to pack a punch, but it's so dense and so many steps involved that it falls into the productivity fallacy for me: It's increasing my executive disfunction and makes it harder and cumbersome to add tasks instead of reducing it.

One app that really works for me, does one thing and does it well is for example Due: https://apps.apple.com/de/app/due-erinnerungen-timer/id39001...

Not affiliated in any way with the app or it's creator.

When it comes to apps like these, less is more for me.

bbminner 10/23/2024||
For years I have been fiddling with the idea of a personal task management system that synchronized status, due dates, prioritization, planning, projects, etc across platforms, and came to a conclusion that nothing beats a flat text file (with own notation for all the above) synchronized well across devices via something reliable yet lightweight like google keep, that I "scan, update, reorder" at least once a day.

One huge insight was a notation to keep track of blocked tasks (usually by other people) and what/whom to "poll" periodically to check the status.

ozim 10/23/2024|||
I pay for Todoist because all the other synchronization stuff requires my attention or somehow is not supported well.

Ideally I would like to have git available on iPhone and Apple tablets then I could use my repo that I have notes in on laptops and android phones.

Well I am pissed by poor text editing on iPhone anyway so I will go back to android and then I can go back to text file with git on private repo.

amiantos 10/23/2024||
> Ideally I would like to have git available on iPhone and Apple tablets

I'd like to introduce you to Working Copy

- https://apps.apple.com/us/app/working-copy-git-client/id8966... - https://workingcopy.app

bravura 10/24/2024||
This looks great but... to work with a github repo I have to give:

* read and write access to ALL gists

* read and write access to ALL repos, public and private

* read and write access to SSH public keys

That's a no from me.

SoftTalker 10/24/2024||||
For me, I want it all in one place: the calendar. Even for stuff that just need to get done but doesn't have a particular "date" -- that stuff could just float from day to day somehow.

It has never made sense to me that Apple has a separate "Reminders" app that's completely divorced from the Calendar.

I don't want stuff in multiple apps. I tend to disable notifications very aggressively because otherwise my phone is "dinging" every few minutes. I would prefer that all my notifications for tasks/due dates/appointments come from the Calendar.

amenghra 10/23/2024||||
Getting things done (GTD) has a notion of “waiting for”. Lots of people successfully follow GTDs structure methodologically.
ghaff 10/24/2024||
I’m not much of a productivity system guy. But GTD has some good ideas that I’ve tried to adopt:

Breaking down tasks into actionable steps

Separating things out that really have a firm due date from those that really need to be taken care of but not by a specific date

I also keep a maybe someday list of things that may never happen and may outlive there being a good reason to make happen. I did what I liked to refer to as a value renovation project on my house this summer and there were a number of projects whose cost and/or effort just exceeded their utility.

oezi 10/24/2024||||
In my own markdown-driven workflow with tool support (https://github.com/coezbek/rodo) the solution for me is to only look at tasks relevant today and just move blocked tasks 1 or 7 or n days into the future so they show up again then.
h0l0cube 10/23/2024|||
> and came to a conclusion that nothing beats a flat text file (with own notation for all the above) synchronized well across devices via something reliable yet lightweight like google keep

Checklists in Apple Notes also works well for this if you’ve already bought into that ecosystem. I only wish it could track list items, so I could get basic stats on velocity.

codersfocus 10/24/2024|||
It's not so much a task database that people need. People need a way to structure their day. I find the calendar approach a lot of these apps use to be too cumbersome. I want structure, but something looser.

I'm working on my solution to this, that I call a "process manager." You have prompts that are composed of the prompt text, a recurrence pattern, and some prefill or "carry over" state. Essentially, a human version of a Turing machine.

Each day has a list, of the prompts that are due to show up that day. You can print it from your phone, and keep the paper folded and always with you.

Processes > projects. Our life is naturally process based. If you use food as an example, it's not enough to go grocery shopping once or make a meal once. Instead, "staying fed" is a never ending process. You can subordinate those tasks to that process, though.

So processes like that need to be managed, and currently there aren't any tools for that I know of.

I launched it on Testflight yesterday if anyone wants to give a spin: https://testflight.apple.com/join/2VNkUqy9

I am planing on adding more powerful features, like the ability to script the prompt instead of having it be static text.

oDot 10/24/2024|||
This fairly easily achievable with a tool I built called Nestful

https://nestful.app

Nestful is built on a different but similar premise called Spontaneous Productivity:

https://blog.nestful.app/p/spontaneous-productivity

jhardy54 10/24/2024|||
Initial feedback: it opens to a blank screen, and adding a prompt opens a form with a bunch of fields like “prompt”, “prefill”, and “category”, which bounced me. Would love some concrete starter examples to understand the idea and give it a shot!
codersfocus 10/24/2024||
Yeah definitely not ready for prime time yet. I'm working on a reddit community to discuss this concept though, will add some prompts and how to use it there.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PromptYourself/

hanniabu 10/24/2024|||
Just use a text file where you drop all your todo items. At the end of every week bring to the top everything you plan to do next week. At the end of each day bring to the top everything you plan to do tomorrow.
evntdrvn 10/24/2024||
I have ADHD as well, and Due has been an absolute lifesaver and core of my life management for years now.
Scottn1 10/24/2024||
Why Due over built-in Reminders app on iOS. Reminders has grown into a pretty neat app over the years. With iOS 18 it can even do Kanban view. Reminders on iOS also has the unique system advantage of having it's notifications stay on top of others until marked done. No other app has this permission as others I have tried, the notification just gets buried and I sometimes miss them.

With that said, Reminders remains just a tad basic for me for full life/project management. I just need deeper nesting! Currently in "My Lists" you can only go 2-deep. A folder then a list. I need folders inside folders.

I've been playing around with Twos App (https://www.twosapp.com/) for a month which replicates Bullet Journaling. But it is too complicated I think for my needs. I don't need my notes/journals inside my todo's app.

Terretta 10/24/2024||
How badly do Twos want to SEO rank on searches for Things?

https://culturedcode.com/things/

w10-1 10/23/2024||
The App Store flow is about abstract features so to me it doesn’t speak to value.

Eg it’s easy to know when something’s due, but really hard to know when to work on what —- what to do when. Saying “schedule easily” sort of buries the lede.

I wonder if a leading panel talking about the frustrating churn of planning ( implicitly trading the urgent against the important) would activate more people and also provide the right keywords for finding the app via search

hxii 10/23/2024||
I’m confused why you have both Zesfy (https://apps.apple.com/il/app/zesfy-planner-calendar/id64799...) and Sepnia (https://apps.apple.com/il/app/sepnia-calendar-tasks/id151493...).

They look very similar.

zesfy 10/24/2024|
Sepnia was my earlier app, and Zesfy is designed to replace it. I’ve kept Sepnia available for now to give users time to migrate to Zesfy before I take it down. I hope that clears up the confusion.
dirkc 10/23/2024||
Nice, it looks good and polished!

I liked the on-boarding. I don't like the first screen being a pitch for a subscription, but I get that you probably need to sell hard to get subscriptions.

I've recently launched a small app on the app store and it's no where near as polished! How long have you been working on it?

zesfy 10/23/2024|
Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad that you like the onboarding.

I get your point about the subscription screen. It's something that I've been experimenting for a while. I found many users activate the subscription during the onboarding, that's why I keep it.

I've been working on this app for almost 5 years at this point. Also, congrats for the app. Feel free to share the link, I'd love to check it out.

dirkc 10/24/2024||
> I found many users activate the subscription during the onboarding, that's why I keep it.

I think this is the toughest part for me as a technically inclines person - selling. It's something I want to become more comfortable with.

> almost 5 years at this point

Well done persisting. That is a lot of hard work! Any tips on keeping up motivation? I've been working on my app for only a few months now and had to dig deep a few times to keep going.

> Feel free to share the link, I'd love to check it out.

Thanks, I'm still working on making it a bit more marketable, but here it is: https://dingdongdoorbell.com/

neom 10/24/2024||
A friend of mine is working on a an app to help devs sell stuff - he might benefit from your feedback - https://gitwallet.co/
dirkc 10/24/2024||
Looks really nice. I've worked on lots of open source code for > 10 years now. But I've never done a project where the product itself was monetized directly. Would still be happy to give him specific feedback if he wants - my contact is indirectly in my profile :)
TimTheTinker 10/23/2024||
I'm always interested in potentially helpful systems for organizing my tasks...

But I'm not interested in another rent payment, full stop.

wwalexander 10/23/2024||
Very important distinction! Apple recently added an “Early Reminder” feature that allows similar functionality which I am very grateful for.
mlangenberg 10/23/2024|
And since Sonoma and iOS 18, Calendar and Reminders are finally integrated, so it’s easy to see upcoming reminders.
gcr 10/26/2024||
For folks using Things (by culturedcode) or org-mode, these offer something similar!

- Org-mode allows you to annotate tasks with DEADLINE: and SCHEDULED:, they will show up twice on your agenda. The deadline will have a countdown date.

- Things tasks don't appear until they are scheduled (⌘S), but you can additionally specify a deadline (⌘⇧D), and they will appear with an "X days til due" label.

pivo 10/23/2024||
I can't install it because I have an older (2020) Intel mac and it requires an M1 or later chip. Is that an accident or is there a real dependency on Apple CPUs?
ceejayoz 10/23/2024|
Yes. iOS apps can run natively on Apple Silicon Macs, but not on Intel.
freetinker 10/24/2024||
I will give any “Data Not Collected” app a fair chance. The design/UI look suite polished from the screenshots. Look forward to trying it out!
zesfy 10/24/2024|
Thanks for giving it a try. I'd love to hear your experience, feel free to let me know.
content_content 10/23/2024|
How can I show my Google calendars on here? Also, any plans for a desktop app? I hate interacting with calendars on my phone :(
zesfy 10/23/2024|
Zesfy syncs with your iOS calendar, so if you’ve already added your Google account to your iPhone’s calendar, all your Google events will show up in the app. Just make sure to turn on "Show iOS Calendars" on the app settings and you're good to go.

I'm planning to add supports for iPad and Mac in the future, probably PWA too if there is enough demand for it.

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