Posted by itvision 4 days ago
I'm looking for an OS, Linux is not just a kernel anymore it seems, for this and other reasons, hint, Linux Foundation and their cooperate lords.
Is it irrational to not accept the work of individuals who work for sanctioned orgs, in a country which claims to have no borders, and threatens to attack the West with nuclear weapons every couple months?
> Sometimes you need a hit in the head to understand the reality.
Please expand on exactly what you mean by this.
Or China, Venezuela (both left and right parties, at least from Spain)...
End the stage performance, please. We all know it's all about money and power.
> End the stage performance, please. We all know it's all about money and power.
You are ridiculously incorrect. For me, it is about freedom, democracy, and the right to continue breathing. I currently live a few hundred km from the war in Europe. Russian state media threatens to invade my country of residence every month or so.
Every time I go to the grocery store, I see Ukrainian refugee mothers and their children trying to survive. It is real here, not some theoretical far-away thing that my edgelord friends and I get to pontificate about online.
Reread what he said- legal reasons (sanctions) caused a number of people to be removed from the MAINTAINERS list because they work for Russian companies that fall under sanctions.
Someone realized (or was reminded) of the sanctions, and they did their due diligence to remove them as required by Finnish and/or EU law.
This doesn't mean they can't submit code- just that they have to go through other maintainers and have their code audited, just like basically everyone else. It doesn't mean their code is removed, or that attribution is removed. It just means they can no longer act as maintainers.
As for Torvald's comment about aggression? Someone was asking him to break sanctions and restore these people to MAINTAINERS, and his response was basically "Why would I stick my neck out to try to take a stand against sanctions for a country whose policies and politics are abhorrent to myself and my country?"
As for why Linus doesn't want to engage? Why should he engage with new accounts coming out of the woodwork that aren't contributors, maintainers, or involved in Linux at all? He has better things to do, like work on Linux, especially since he just lost a large number of maintainers that reduce the load on him.
Linux is an open source project, but *not* a playground for totalitarian regimes.
Russia is known for starting several wars, mass killing and raping of civilians, destroying entire cities, murdering prisoners, and this list is far from complete!
Do you think tolerating all this is the right way? Just forget & forgive? Some independent sociology says that 70%+ Russians still support the war. So full sanctions package is the minimum that should be done.
Many of delisted maintainers are from Mail.ru, the company owned by FSB. These people on maintainer positions are threat for Linux security. But cutting all individuals from RU isn't right, there must be some security verification procedure.
Obviously you haven't thought that blocking participants for reasons you've mentioned should start with Linus Torvalds, currently a US citizen. Maybe later he can present some papers or something to guarantee that he's not involved...
the reason for the removal was not that they had an email address on a public and free email provider that coincidentally had a Russian tld.