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Posted by surprisetalk 10/23/2024

Sinusoidal Sunlight(leancrew.com)
100 points | 33 commentspage 2
knappa 10/24/2024|
Instead of trying to fit a sine wave this way, one can also take the Fourier transform and read off the largest value and its location.
dakiol 10/24/2024||
A bit off-topic but I couldn't overlook that Chicago reminds me of Munich (in terms of daylight).

I have lived in Spain (Santiago de Compostela) and I absolutely loved that in the summer time the sun sets around 10pm. Even in winter time the sun sets around 6:30pm. I have lived in Munich, and it was depressing as hell in winter because the sun sets at around 4pm.

I also hated that in summer in Munich, the sun rised around 5am. I'm not a morning person, I never cared for how much daylight I was getting before 9am (which is more or less the time I wake up)

Gare 10/24/2024||
Major reason sun sets so late in Spain is because they're in the "wrong" timezone.

Daylight in Santiago is only 40 minutes longer during winter solstice. And during summer solstice Munich has longer daylight!

ncruces 10/24/2024||
Particularly Galicia (Santiago), which should really use the Portuguese timezone.

Or not: you cross the border and don't “fix” your watch, because mealtimes, etc, are all shifted an hour in the opposite direction.

themaninthedark 10/24/2024|||
And this is why we have daylight savings time...
GistNoesis 10/24/2024|
I find the wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunrise_equation more complete as I was wondering about latitude and the fact that north poles sometimes don't even see the light for days, a sinusoid wouldn't fit.

Now wondering how accurate a location we can get from the observation of sunrise and sunset from the formula (in the case I got stranded on a desert island :) ).

madcaptenor 10/24/2024||
If you look at sunrise times at places just south of the Arctic Circle it's pretty obvious that day length is not exactly a sinusoid. See for example Reykjavik: https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/iceland/reykjavik

Ignoring refraction, you have cos(omega_O) = - tan(phi) * tan(delta), where:

- omega_0 is the hour angle at sunrise/sunset (basically the time)

- phi is the observer's longitude

- delta is the sun's declination, which varies over the year.

delta is not exactly sinusoidal but that doesn't seem to be the major problem.

The hour angle at sunrise is

omega_O = arccos(-tan(phi) * tan(delta))

and if delta varies sinusoidally then I think we can wave our hands and say "small angle approximation" to get an approximate sinusoid out the other end, but if tan(phi) gets large enough the approximation breaks down.