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Posted by cataPhil 10/23/2024

Show HN: Wall-mounted diffusion mirror that turns reflections into paintings(www.matthieulc.com)
472 points | 123 commentspage 3
ogou 10/24/2024|
The interesting thing to me about this, and most other demos, is what people are simulating as examples of art. In this case, it's a very specific Picasso time period. Others tend to center on fantasy or well-known science fiction painters. This makes sense if your only exposure to art is the internet. Maybe a few Wikipedia sessions and a Google search for "modern art". The actual art world is in a huge transition right now and the idea of this Western dominance of art history is being completely re-evaluated. I haven't seen many demos of these tools, or AI art in general, that makes use of any actual modern art from the past 20-30 years. I definitely don't see examples from non-European art history (except Ukiyo-e or anime). That says a lot about what most of you expect from tools like this. It's not just technical, it's culturally normative. Think of it, (without looking it up) can any of you name any living artists that have been exhibited in the Museum of Modern Art in the past 30 years? I see so many strong opinions here about what art is or isn't, but wonder if anybody actually goes to museums or galleries to see what is considered modern art.
pogue 10/24/2024||
I'd love to know the cost of all the materials used in the project and how much time it took you to assemble everything (I didn't see it in the article unless I missed it)

This would definitely be a very cool installation piece for a house or commercial property for people to gather around and talk about!

theendisney4 10/23/2024||
Sounds cool! I would like pictures with people in the room doing weird things energetically like stand on their chair. Dancing. Confetti booze strange outfits. Bordering the offensive then deleted after 30 minutes.
shib71 10/24/2024||
> Art is ... mostly about surfacing the inner world, and only in part about skill.

I like the phrasing of the first part. But what art is "about" is very subjective.

For me, part of what I look for in art is intentionality - the notion that the artist has crafted each element toward a purpose, consciously or not. The less an artist contributes to the final piece, the less meaning I assign to it.

In this case: I would say that the individual pictures being displayed are not "art" - they have no meaning. But I think the device in whole is a piece of art. That is a creation that surfaces the creator's inner world, because they designed the device, wrote the code, crafted the prompts to achieve pieces that reflected their notion of beauty.

disqard 10/24/2024||
I love this framing (pun unintended) of "art".

Besides what you articulated as the "intention", I often think of the "story" behind the art -- whether an idea in the creator's head was expressed via the piece (or not) makes me go "yes, this is Art" (or not).

By that token, when I see automated projects like this, I think of the "installation" as art, but the pixels or arrangements generated by the piece itself is less art-like IMO.

d0gsg0w00f 10/24/2024||
Yes. I think we attribute the cost of the human sacrifice into the value of the art. It's a like owning 1/80th of a human soul and hanging it on the wall.
swayvil 10/24/2024||
>But art is mostly about surfacing the inner world

Oh good lord.

more_corn 10/24/2024|
What’s wrong with that? If art is expression shouldn’t everyone have the right to artistic expression? Even people who express themselves with nerdy projects and code and hardware instead of paint and canvas? What do you think art is?
caelinsutch 10/24/2024||
how much does this end up costing to run?
broast 10/23/2024||
Super cool! I've had similar ideas when I first saw StreamDiffusion. The possibilities are endless
Mumps 10/24/2024||
On the low framerate: why get a pi5 when a Jetson Nano could be had for about the same price?
jansan 10/24/2024|
What do you want a high frame rate for when looking at art? What is the frame rate of the Mona Lisa?
Mumps 10/31/2024||
What's the frame rate of a zoetrope, a 1920's silent film, Charlie Chaplin's greatest works, Eraserhead?

Not all art is still.

So, why the snark?

autoexec 10/23/2024|
It's pretty neat, but I'd never have a webcam steaming everything in view to someone else's server on the internet. It'd be cool if the server ran on my own hardware, and ideally in the frame itself. The privacy policy at runpod.io wouldn't even display in my browsers. (their ToS loaded without an issue).
beeflet 10/24/2024|
I wonder if you could do something like this with hardware acceleration (like google coral)
refulgentis 10/24/2024||
Unfortunately no, they only have a TensorFlow target and none of the hobbyist / released big model image stuff works with it
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