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Posted by orliesaurus 10/24/2024

AWS data center latencies, visualized(benjdd.com)
529 points | 209 commentspage 3
reincoder 10/24/2024|
As we operate 720+ servers running ping and traceroute continously, I will try to see if we can publish intra provider or intra asn latency data like this but on a massive scale. We have a ton measurement internally but to publish them as a product or even as a web dashboard is tricky as it is hard to measure what the interest could be.
dangoodmanUT 10/24/2024||
it always shocked by how few main regions they have in the US. I know they have the mini region things but still.
yuliyp 10/24/2024||
Note that latencies between regions are subject to change: individual links can go down or become overloaded, resulting in traffic needing to take alternate (longer) paths. Unless you have a contract specifying a specific latency, you should still be prepared for things to slow down on occasion.
albert_e 10/24/2024||
interesting

the "globe" visualization is good ... but we cna only see half the world at a time ... can we have an option of a flat projection as well ... so I can see all latencies for a region at a glance?

ap-south-2 (Asia Pacific - Hyderabad,India) opened in Nov 2022 seems to be missing from the list?

danpalmer 10/24/2024||
All of the datacenters are colour-coded as blue, which is not on the legend. What does this mean?
boguscoder 10/24/2024||
Since all of them are same color its not really color coding and hence not on the legend, its just OPs choice for color of points
danpalmer 10/24/2024||
No lines were working for me, so the only feature was the blue colour of the dots, hence thinking they must be colour coded in line with the legend.
grogenaut 10/24/2024||
click on one
danpalmer 10/24/2024||
Ah, this was what I tried first, and it didn't do anything, but now it does seem to be doing something. That makes sense now, thanks.
Tempest1981 10/24/2024||
Same... didn't work until I moved the globe a bit. I thought the site was broken, or getting the HN hug of death.
hemogloben 10/24/2024||
Is this just fiber distance between each datacenter? The coloring makes it seem significant, but from the distances it kinda just looked like ever < _km (100ms) was green, everything between _km(100ms) and _km(200ms) was orange, and everything over was red.
wiml 10/24/2024||
I'm not sure what you're wondering here. Of course physical distance is going to be a dominating factor, but this is measuring packet transit times. The speed of light over half a great-circle is only 67ms or so, ot maybe 100ms considering velocity factor in fiber, so clearly there's more to it than just distance. We can talk about what those other things are, but we both know they exist, right?
Hikikomori 10/24/2024||
Basically yes, as distance is the most important factor when it comes to latency.
cliffordc 10/24/2024||
Maybe a question with an obvious answer, but why are there not yet more data centers in Africa?
danpalmer 10/24/2024||
I believe it's a combination of a lack of customers and lack of infrastructure. It's a big continent to cover with the necessary fibre capacity, and the market is much smaller for nearby services.

Also what you don't see in things like this, or even a list of datacenter locations, is the relative sizes of the datacenters. After US east/west coasts and Europe, datacenter capacity rapidly tails off. Parts of Asia have plenty but not on the same scale I believe (although I don't know about the Chinese market). The difference in size can be quite a few orders of magnitude between different regions.

prmoustache 10/24/2024|||
Smaller market, less reliable power grids, more challenging heat management, less political stability in many african countries. Also, given their pricing, big cloud vendors AWS are a luxury many local businesses would probably not even consider.
adamcharnock 10/24/2024|||
This isn’t just an issue for cloud providers. It’s also not easy to find collocation space either.

My best guess is that it is a combination lower demand (vs rest of world), and infrastructure availability (connectivity + power).

I can imagine a bunch of secondary factors too, but this to me sounds like the key broad reasons.

obviyus 10/24/2024||
Hah, CloudPing is awesome. I just wrote a TUI in Rust for exactly the same thing: https://github.com/obviyus/pong

I found myself going to CloudPing often enough to make a CLI for it

kzrdude 10/24/2024||
Just curious, why is there no us central or us texas region? It could maybe be useful.
bob1029 10/24/2024||
Azure has Ohio and Texas, but you'll probably not be able to provision all the machines you want so it doesn't really matter.

I think a lot of people are sleeping on the benefits of hosting workloads in these regions. Many finance, banking & insurance companies have already taken advantage. Most of your credit card transactions are handled by data centers that live ~barycentric to the continental US. Much of small US banking tech happens in places like Missouri.

some_random 10/24/2024||
US-East-2 is also Ohio
TowerTall 10/24/2024||
and why are there hardly any in South America and Africa?
belter 10/24/2024|
Pedantic but important: These are latencies between regions not data centers.
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