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Posted by terabytest 10/24/2024

Show HN: 2048 turned 10 this year, I built an updated version to celebrate(play2048.co)
Hi all! My name is Gabriele Cirulli, I’m the original creator of 2048. Ten years ago, someone posted 2048 on HN[1] and suddenly it seemed like everyone was playing it. Back then, I wrote a bit about my experience during those weeks[2].

Even after all these years, that experience still feels a bit surreal to me. I’m deeply grateful to everyone who connected with the game, whether in small or significant ways, and for the stories shared along the way. Some people expressed how they were going through tough times and found some comfort, however small, in playing 2048.

At the start of last year, I wanted to breathe new life into the game as it was starting to show its age. I quit my job last October to work on 2048 full time and spent a year building this new version (the original took just 5 days!). I wanted to pay tribute to what made 2048 great while modernizing and polishing the experience.

The idea of adding powerups came when Prime Gaming and I connected to see if we could create a special version of 2048 for their members, with some exclusive extras. Some of those powerups made it into the main game, though there’s still a Classic[3] mode just like the original for those who prefer a more hardcore experience. The old site is also still online[4].

2048 is now my full-time focus, and I’m excited about the ways it can keep improving. I wanted to share this update with the community where it all began, both for a bit of nostalgia and to hear your thoughts and feedback!

Thank you all so much!

— Gabriele

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7373566

[2]: https://medium.com/@gabrielecirulli/2048-success-and-me-7dc6...

[3]: https://play2048.co/classic

[4]: https://classic.play2048.co

669 points | 212 commentspage 8
CodeWriter23 10/25/2024|
Meh, wake me up when you release 16384. Just kidding, glad this can be a full time venture for you. Mixed feelings about this orbiting back into my field of view again. So far, having fun.
naikrovek 10/25/2024||
> 2048 is now my full-time focus

How? How does that game pay anywhere nearly enough to allow that?

time4tea 10/25/2024||
Just another scam Internet surveillance.

Why do you need to share tracking data with many hundreds of shady organisations.

Devasta 10/24/2024||
Store and/or access information on a device ( 723 partners included )

Consent + Develop and improve services ( 379 partners included )

Legitimate Interest Consent + Use limited data to select content ( 101 partners included )

Legitimate Interest Consent + Use limited data to select advertising ( 472 partners included )

Legitimate Interest Consent + Create profiles for personalised advertising ( 529 partners included )

Use precise geolocation data ( 547 partners included )

Consent + Actively scan device characteristics for identification ( 551 partners included )

If this doesn't describe the modern internet I don't know what else does.

LeifCarrotson 10/24/2024||
Plus a requirement to subscribe to Amazon Prime if you want to unlock more DLC? chef's kiss

FWIW, on desktop Firefox, between uBlock Origin, EFF's Privacy Badger, and Ghostery "Never Consent" cookie dismissal, I got no trackers, no cookies, no ads, and full site functionality.

thih9 10/24/2024|||
Many have the "legitimate interest" checkbox selected. Does anyone know what does it mean in practice in this case? I roughly understand the general idea behind legitimate interest but I wouldn't know how it would apply here.
seethedeaduu 10/24/2024|||
AND no way to conest the "legitimate interest" of these 9 trillion partners in one click, disgusting
lencastre 10/24/2024||
Show some tolerance the guy list his job in October
hankchinaski 10/24/2024||
Then don’t use it. People who keen on whining about this clearly don’t know anything about building a business.
ziddoap 10/24/2024|||
You do not need what was posted above to build a business.
lencastre 10/24/2024||
Buuuuuuurn
Devasta 10/24/2024|||
That you thought this was a post worth making, I'm embarrassed for you.
hankchinaski 10/24/2024||
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Devasta 10/24/2024||
> Then don’t use it. People who keen on whining about this clearly don’t know anything about building a business.

You could heed your own advice and just not use the site, yet you're keen to stay and whine. Curious!

hankchinaski 10/24/2024||
I’m fighting on a meta level. for a world where people don’t pretend we have a nanny state telling us what cookies we should use or not. Just use the site, if you don’t fancy the cookies just log off and keep going
Devasta 10/24/2024||
I don't think its reasonable for every site I visit for the rest of my life to badger me for the right to have a legion of companies spy on my every move.

Crazy, I know.

mass_and_energy 10/24/2024||
I'm disappointed in HN for stomping this person for the game that they made. They had no idea Threes existed, made this game as an experiment, and it went viral. Despite this, they still acknowledge Threes on their site.

But they post here and are dogpiled on by people saying they ripped off another game and should feel like a scumbag. That's wrong, let's be kind to each other instead of exhibiting rude behavior that discourages people from pursuing their projects because "it's a ripoff of xyz". This started as an experiment, and is now this person's full time career. Can we instead encourage others to follow?

We're not talking about a 1:1 ripoff, we're talking about a game whose gameplay is adjacent to another game. Is Call of Duty a rip-off of Medal of Honor because they're both WWII FPS games?

dang 10/24/2024||
HN isn't a person—it's a statistical cloud. There is always a spectrum of opinion. Most of the comments here agree with you.

There are some bilious and excessive responses but that's inevitable when a thread is large. We do our best to moderate the site so that they don't dominate.

People commonly overgeneralize-then-anthropomorphize the data points that rub them the wrong way. There are cognitive biases that we all have which make this an easy trap to fall into ([1], [2], [3]), but it's important that we all try to avoid it.

If you (I don't mean you personally, of course, but all of us) allow the negative tail of the spectrum to form your picture of the community, that's bad—because your picture of the community influences how you participate in it and this will cause harmful secondary effects that can, in the worst case, turn into doom loops.

I don't think the primary harmful effects (e.g. bilious comments and upvotes for indignation) of running a large internet forum like HN are avoidable, but I do think the secondary ones are. At least I hope so!

[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_media_effect

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error

MattRix 10/24/2024|||
"They had no idea Threes existed" This makes it even worse, because it means they ripped off 1024 instead (the game that ripped off Threes). That means they put even less effort into their clone, even the name is a rip off of that game.

I genuinely don't get how people here can say "Oh it's just like Call of Duty and Medal of Honor" or say that Triple Town and Threes were similar. Obviously there's a spectrum from inspiration to cloning, but 2048 is so far on the cloning end of that spectrum that the whole comparison seems like a joke.

pests 10/24/2024||
I think 2048 is a better game and I like it more.
The-Bus 10/24/2024|||
Especially when other merge games (Triple Town) existed for years.

They're all in the same general genre.

Suppafly 10/24/2024||
>Especially when other merge games (Triple Town) existed for years.

That matt guy that's posted like 100 times in this thread doesn't want to hear it, but I've literally only ever heard Threes brought up in comparison to 2048 and Triple Town. No one brings up Threes on their own organically.

keeganpoppen 10/24/2024||
where is the stomping happening? i think everyone here knows the score, and both teams have points.
abcd_f 10/24/2024||
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samatman 10/24/2024||
2048 is a better game, which is why it's 100x or more popular than Threes.

I'm sure that you, a connoisseur, greatly prefer Threes, which is great. It can be fun to have a taste which is that of a very small minority.

But, to state the nearly tautological, the difference in popularity is because 2048 is better, in the view of the vast majority. It's more fun to play, and that's what makes a game good.

mass_and_energy 10/24/2024|||
Why is everybody saying this when the game mechanic of 2048 is fundamentally different. The difference in play between swiping over one tile at a time VS swiping and moving all tiles to one side is a big difference.

Furthermore, the author didn't know Threes existed when they made it, so calling it a "blatant rip" is rudely false. Let's lift each other up instead of pushing each other down.

jasonlotito 10/24/2024||
And Threes is a blatant rip off of other games before it as much as 2048 is of Threes. Let's go down that rabbit hole.
MattRix 10/24/2024||
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The-Bus 10/24/2024||
Forget it, Jack, it's Tripletown.
MattRix 10/24/2024||
Triple Town was great in its own right, but the games are very different and have lots of different mechanics. Nobody would argue that Threes is as similar to Triple Town as 2048 is to Threes.
turnsout 10/24/2024||
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abcd_f 10/24/2024||
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terabytest 10/24/2024||
I wanted to address this, because I understand where you come from. Threes is actually credited in the about page[1] on play2048.co.

The frustration is completely understandable, as Threes is definitely where the concept originated. Due to the chain of derivative games that led to the creation of 2048, I had not seen or heard of Threes until after it went viral. I think the inspiration Threes provided, although valid, is somewhat indirect in the case of 2048. I did try my best to reflect this in the about page and when I talked about my experience here[2].

I noticed there's no mention of it on GitHub, so I'll add it there. I am happy to do better given the feedback, but I'm not sure what kind of improvement I could make here. Let me know

[1]: https://play2048.co/about

[2]: https://medium.com/@gabrielecirulli/2048-success-and-me-7dc6...

abcd_f 10/24/2024||
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terabytest 10/24/2024|||
Again, I understand where you’re coming from, but I don’t fully agree. While Threes was an definitely inspiration along the chain, by your logic, any creative work would need a detailed credit trail, even when it grows and evolves into something different. 2048 was not intended as anything other than an experiment, yet it took on its own life, driven by the unexpected virality and maybe by its simplicity. I’ve always tried to acknowledge Threes’ role, but I don't know that I should attach this label on every mention of 2048. I appreciate the perspective you shared.
zoozon 10/24/2024||||
Don't be a cunt.
npinsker 10/24/2024||
He mentions Threes! prominently in both link [1] and link [2].
abcd_f 10/24/2024||
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jckahn 10/24/2024|||
What’s the problem, exactly? Is there some stated HN rule that requires a developer to clearly state the inspiration for their work?
torlok 10/25/2024|
To add to the clone topic, 2048 was cloned from 1024, so any claims of being only inspired by Threes fall apart quickly. IMHO, the way you're trying to sell 2048 is revisionist history and just plain shit. You can't turn back time, and let the Threes creator have a moment to shine and profit from the design, but you can at least give credit where due, and not when 50 people call you out on it.