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Posted by kretaceous 10/24/2024

Rider is now free for non-commercial use(www.jetbrains.com)
828 points | 422 commentspage 6
psygn89 10/24/2024|
The design of the yellow/black cells holding language/tech tripped me out for a sec, on my laptop they're all crooked at the top but align themselves after a certain amount of scroll. Thought I was seeing an optical illusion but a refresh shows that it's not. I don't think this was intentional.
aggieNick02 10/24/2024||
What on earth is up with that? It's not just you. It happens in both Chrome and Firefox. After a very small amount of scroll it goes away?!?!
DaemonAlchemist 10/24/2024|||
I see specific classes on the page that specify a one degree angle, so it seems to be intentional. I would guess it's to call your attention to the cells.
aggieNick02 10/24/2024||
The one degree angle, while a little unusual, isn't what blows my mind. It's the disappearance after a small scroll. That's enough to make you think you were imagining things, might need to go to the eye doctor, etc...
bev-erage 10/24/2024||
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nurettin 10/24/2024||
Sounds like they got a big present from Microsoft.
homebrewer 10/24/2024|
No, they're feeling pressure from VSCode (which is primitive in comparison, but good enough for most people). Thus the new theme (which none of the old users asked for) — total clone of VSCode UI, and this announcement. It's the opposite of what you're thinking.
memsom 10/24/2024|||
Not sure which version of VSCode you think the new UI is a clone of, but I don't really see it. The tool buttons? VS has always had those, thought they had text by default. Tabs? VS has those too. Bottom bar? VS also. In fact, Rider looks like all the other Jetbrains IDEs - except Fleet, which is actually their VS Code competitor.
sakesun 10/25/2024|||
I agree. Definitely pressure from VSCode. I did a number of .NET projects with VSCode. It's indeed very good.
MattRix 10/24/2024||
Rider has a lot going for it, but I really can't stand the structure of JetBrains subscription. Why can't they just have a single monthly or annual price, rather than this absurd structure where the price gets cheaper over time, encouraging lock-in?
collinstevens 10/24/2024||
All Products Pack (12 IDEs, 3 extensions, 2 profilers)

first year - $289.00 (+$116)

second year - $231.00 (+$58)

third year onwards - $173.00

you're locked in because of an extra $116 the first year and $58 the second year?

https://www.jetbrains.com/store/?section=personal&billing=ye...

Jtsummers 10/24/2024||
They may mean that they're locked into continuing the subscription to keep getting updates because if you have a break then you start at the high price again.

Whenever you don't renew you get whatever version was out when you last renewed in perpetuity which is great. But if you decide you don't want it this year, but in two years you do, now you're back at the $289 price. Though if you pay $289 every other year you're still coming out ahead compared to an annual subscription so I don't know what the issue is.

curlicue 10/24/2024|||
Because you get a lifetime license for the latest version available when you pay, so you're getting less value the second year you pay since you're just paying for updates.

You can choose to pay every 3 or 4 years rather than yearly if you don't want to be locked in, but it will come out as a similar cost overall

wiether 10/24/2024|||
They're rewarding recurring customers, this is not a vendor lock-in.
MattRix 10/24/2024||
That’s of course the way they would try to frame it positively… but imagine it any of your other subscriptions did the same? Once you’ve been subscribed, it puts a much higher cost on unsubscribing, especially if you aren’t using it but think you might need it again at some point in the future.
Jtsummers 10/24/2024||
If you don't care about the annual updates, the subscription is actually more expensive than just paying for it every other year or less frequently.
vunderba 10/24/2024||
Uhhh no. Lock-in seems like hyperbole given that you can migrate over to any other IDE. And, especially given the fact that when you purchase an annual subscription, you were given a perpetual fall back license - meaning you can continue to use that version long after your subscription has lapsed.
mellosouls 10/24/2024|
Note that you will still have to pay for the AI support, which is presumably a major factor in this strategy.

ie. How many devs will really use it in it's "free" state as titled? Fewer and fewer I suspect.

I'm sceptical about the prevalence of non-AI-centred-IDEs going forward - we live in a new era now - and I guess JetBrains have also come to that conclusion and this is a pivot to support the thesis.

issafram 10/24/2024|
I don't care about AI support at all
bigstrat2003 10/24/2024|||
If anything, not having AI is a bonus in my book.
mellosouls 10/25/2024|||
Fair enough, but I think that will be a minority view going forward; it has already become a core functionality across the industry, and that is what Jetbrains et al have to contend with.