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Posted by jakey_bakey 10/24/2024

Boeing 787s must be reset every 51 days or 'misleading data' is shown (2020)(www.theregister.com)
205 points | 223 commentspage 2
sgarland 10/25/2024|
There was a similar problem with a specific generation of 688-class submarines, where a calculated temperature would slowly drift. The metric wasn’t used for any protective actions, so it wasn’t a “shut down immediately and return home surfaced on the diesel” situation, but still disconcerting.

I assume that after this the software was soak-tested for weeks / months to eliminate that class of bug. Naval Reactors is many things, but repeating the same mistake twice isn’t one of them.

qxfys 10/25/2024||
It sounds like my random Raspberry Pi sitting somewhere in my server room that has to be restarted every <x> weeks.
olabyne 10/25/2024||
Really ? Mine has an uptime of a year or so, it resets only if a big storm stopped the main power for a few seconds. Maybe it is the new hardware ? I have the original one (arvm6, 512 Meg of RAM)
louwhopley 10/25/2024|||
Same same but different
tonyedgecombe 10/25/2024||
My TV needs regular reboots, about every six weeks.
joejohnson 10/24/2024||
This was news in 2020. Has it been fixed?
justmarc 10/25/2024||
There are just too many worrying signs from Boeing in the last years.

I have no idea about these things at all but some of the issues seem almost unforgivable to me.

They should work very hard for the industry, and the ultimate end users to regain confidence in them again. I'm not sure they are doing this.

bandyaboot 10/25/2024||
If problems persist after rebooting, you may need to use a giant paperclip to perform a reset.
pulse7 10/25/2024||
"Reboot tut immer gut!" (Reboot is always good!)
DiggyJohnson 10/25/2024||
I'm honestly impressed that the Register included a prominent blurb explaining to the reader that while this sounds like a catastrophic issue, the most likely outcome if this is experienced in flight is a safe and controlled landing.

> Sidenote > > Pitch and power is a simple concept. If you have the throttles, say, three-quarters open and the nose of the aeroplane is pointing a few degrees above the horizon, chances are you're probably flying straight and level at a safe speed. Training manuals normally contain a number of precise pitch and power settings (they vary between aeroplane types) so if display systems start failing, pilots can fall back to these with confidence.

tedunangst 10/24/2024||
And 4.5 years later, what's new?
akira2501 10/24/2024||
> This alarming-sounding situation

That's not what's alarming to me. What's alarming is that the plane could possibly be in a position to be continuously powered on for 51 days in the first place.

stavros 10/24/2024|
When a minute of downtime costs thousands, why wouldn't you expect planes to be in constant utilization?
akira2501 10/24/2024|||
> why wouldn't you expect planes to be in constant utilization?

They require weekly maintenance which takes them out of service for at least 12 hours.

What we may of as 'constant utilization' is quite different in a regulated fleet environment like airlines.

hinkley 10/24/2024|||
maintenance would happen with the aircraft in 'wheels on ground' mode but that may not mean all systems are turned off. I expect it's like a bug in the SMC on a computer. To really turn it off you have to do some magic.
stavros 10/24/2024|||
"Constant utilization" means "they aren't sitting idle", not "they aren't undergoing necessary maintenance ever".
fallingknife 10/24/2024|||
The number of flights varies a lot by time of day, so there is nothing close to constant utilization.
Filligree 10/24/2024|||
There's not much reason to turn them off outside of maintenance. When they're parked, they're connected to grid power.
thecosmicfrog 10/24/2024|||
Airliners are regularly and routinely shut down. "Cold and dark" is a common startup procedure for the first flight of the day.
n_ary 10/24/2024|||
A parked Aircraft is not kept powered when there are no maintenance or other routine(cleaning/checks/certification/preparation/restocking etc.)

It is very surprising that how a lot of comments here claim the contrary.

Even when parked for next flight, until resupply and cargo routines are declared, it is also not powered.

CactusOnFire 10/24/2024|||
I've flown with airlines before where there was a cascading delay due to a "plane deficit" at the terminal (not the technical term, that's my own). Not to say it's always uptime, but I imagine there are instances of constant uptime.
fallingknife 10/24/2024||
They can't just change things up on a dime like that. Even if it's 3 AM and most planes are sitting on the ground they can't just be used for your flight like that because they are all scheduled to take off in the morning rush a few hours later.
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