If only I had a pound for every discarded vape canister littered on the ground I've seen in London over the past few years. Will the ban fix this? I barely even know what a vape is.
willy_k 2 days ago|
Not that you asked, but a vape is a device consisting of a metal coil that has electricity ran through it to vaporize a mixture of nicotine (either in its salt or free base form), propylene glycol, vegetable glycerin, and other additives and flavoring that has soaked into a (usually cotton) wick so that this vapor can be inhaled. There are disposable vapes that provide all of these in one bright candy-flavored package, and diy-style “pod mods” and “box mods” with modular tanks/pods and coils (and parts of coils for real enthusiasts), the latter which is filled by bottles of the same type of nicotine pg/vg liquid. They are available in different flavors, different ratios of pg/vg, different concentrations, and with the salt of or free base nicotine. A disposable ranges from $10-40, a mod ranges from around $30-300, and bottles range between around $15-$30. They are kind of nice but addictive and pointless.
Closi 2 days ago||
Next step they should put a minimum price on non-disposable vapes at £50-£100.
whatwhaaaaat 2 days ago|
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mgraczyk 2 days ago||
Disposable vapes aren't legal in the US but they are available everywhere
z3ncyberpunk 2 days ago||
Good. Disposable vapes are a plague
progbits 2 days ago||
Oh finally. I can't believe this bullshit was legal in the first place.
idunnoman1222 2 days ago|
You can’t believe that making a small consumer electronic device was legal?
calmoo 2 days ago|||
That's a bit of a mischaracterisation of the point OP was making. It is a small consumer device with a battery, that only lasts a few days and is then tossed out. That should never have been legal in the first place.
bluGill 2 days ago|||
Plenty of children's toys are just as bad. All those musical toys/books you see: most of them do not have replaceable batteries - or the battery is replaceable but the retail price of the batteries is more than the whole toy (you can get sketchy batteries from the usual sketchy places for cheaper)
kchr 2 days ago||
Agreed, but they're not being tossed out into nature the same way these disposable vapes are.
misnome 2 days ago|||
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pjc50 2 days ago|||
Making a consumer electronics device with the intent of it entering the regular waste stream? Fairly sure that was already illegal under WEEE, but the enforcement of that is so loose it's meaningless.
donbateman 2 days ago||
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acdha 2 days ago||
Do you have a citation for that? Most people would not consider a 3+ inch blade a pocket knife and even then it’s not illegal if you have a good reason:
That’s a hunting knife with a belt holster. It might be popular but usually “pocket knife” means something like a Swiss Army knife which comfortably fits in a normal sized pocket.
(Nothing against Buck Knives, by the way - I have one of the first ones made in the custom knife shop 25 years ago when I developed the web UI for them. It’s just not a daily carry kind of size for most of us.)
mgraczyk 2 days ago||
I don't think that's true. Where I grew up everyone carried a knife like this and called it a "pocket knife", and the description on wikipedia, various stores, blogs, manufacturers, etc all use the term to refer to this sort of knife.
Good point, although I notice that they seem to top out that category at 3¾ inches so maybe part of what we’re seeing is that standards have been evolving over time to shorten the blades.
Oh, I’m very aware of that. I was just looking for examples of someone in the UK actually going to jail for carrying a normal pocket knife where they weren’t threatening people or trying to enter some kind of restricted space.
some_random 2 days ago||
There's a huge difference between restricting people's right to defend themselves and their right to purchase shitty single use electronics that slowly kill them
antihero 2 days ago|||
If untrained people try to defend themselves with a pocket knife they are more likely to hurt themselves.
some_random 2 days ago|||
That simply isn't true, and even if it was there's no system by which trained people can be certified to carry any form of self defense tool.
bluGill 2 days ago|||
Even a trained person. A pocket knife is better than nothing, but not by much. Meanwhile a knife is a useful tool in a lot of situations.
some_random 2 days ago||
That's just not true, knives are quite effective self defense tools that allow otherwise physically weaker individuals to inflict significant harm on attackers without much of any additional risk. I know that in the movies this isn't true, but that's just not a reflection of reality.
potato3732842 2 days ago||||
To be fair, cigarettes are worse and pipes worse still, especially 2nd hand so it kind of makes sense that everyone was happy to have vapes proliferate.
immibis 2 days ago|||
You mean, people's right to attack other people.
some_random 2 days ago|||
No I'm very specifically talking about the right to self defense actually.
BoingBoomTschak 2 days ago|||
Are you trying to control outlaws with laws? Good luck.
immibis 2 days ago||
It worked everywhere else. There are less murderers because murder is illegal.
danielktdoranie 2 days ago|
Good to see the government is solving real problems.