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Posted by jdenquin 10/25/2024

Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US(www.businessinsider.com)
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robomartin 10/29/2024|
Here in Los Angeles we have seen dozens of them. Our reaction is consistent: It's ugly and ridiculous. To my wife the design reminds her of a roll-top garbage can of some sort.

My kids probably had the best comment: If Tesla had designed a real truck they would have sold millions.

Keep in mind this is the comment of teenagers who don't have a sense of the size and scale of markets. The point, however, should not be missed: There was an opportunity to enter a truck into the truck market, not an Ikea trash can on wheels.

Sometimes it is a good idea to listen to kids. I remember when one of Apple's original guiding principles of OS design was to make the computers usable by anyone, even young kids. A kid, in this case, does not see the utility of a truck that does not seem to fit the "form and function" of a truck, like an F150 or variants by other manufacturers.

standardUser 10/26/2024||
Here's the thing about the Cybertruck, if you give it a decent paint job it actually looks kind of amazing...

https://pristineautospa.com/the-benefits-and-advantages-of-c...

It's the unfinished metal look that absolutely baffles me.

GenerWork 10/26/2024|
Tesla somehow made a vehicle that only looks its best when you put an aftermarket wrap/paintjob on it. It's almost impressive when you think about it.
moooo99 10/27/2024||
It has been like this for a while. Teslas paint jobs were never amazing. I knew a guy that worked for a vehicle fleet management company. Most of the Teslas they were dealing with had such a bad paint job that they resorted to vinyl wrapping them.

Granted, this was a few years ago. I would hope they got their quality control processes dialed in by now

MostlyStable 10/25/2024||
It is honestly baffling to me how many people have such strong opinions on the Cyber Truck. I don't personally like the aesthetic, but the majority of the reason I wouldn't get one is that I really don't like Teslas interior design/control scheme (which, much like apple, has lead a lot of manufacturers to copy them). I hate the 100% touch screen thing that they have decided on. But like...also, I just won't buy one. The fact that the car isn't my ideal one does not require me to despise it, or really care about it at all. There are a lot of cars that I don't like for one reason or another.

I mean, I guess I do get it: politics have poisoned people's brains and the fact that they don't like Musk's politics means that they have to have extremely strong opinions on everything connected to him, but it just doesn't seem worth the emotional effort.

And while I personally wouldn't ever buy one, it also is not surprising to me at all that a lot of people are buying them. I have no illusion that my personal tastes reflect the broader tastes of the car-buying public (if they did, then I would find it much easier to find a car that conforms to my preferences).

Spooky23 10/26/2024||
All of these things are by design. Musk’s strategy is to be in the news and for the product to be him.

He must have fired his PR team and gave up on the visionary genius schtick. Many people will hate that he’s revealed his true self to the world and it isn’t pretty.

But the car sucks too.

pfannkuchen 10/26/2024|||
Have you actually driven one? The only thing I use the touch screen for on a near daily basis is the defroster in the winter and that is before I start driving. Everything else I need regularly does have physical controls, e.g. wipers and blower speed.

I do have a model that still has the stalks though, haven’t driven the stalkless type enough to comment.

jen20 10/28/2024||
I haven’t driven a cyber truck, but I was in a friend’s Model X the other day and the gear selector was on the touch screen.
iknowstuff 10/29/2024||
not something you touch at speed in an EV, and actually very convenient given how the touch area is generous, right by the wheel, and the car usually selects the direction by itself so you dont even have to do it.
troad 10/27/2024|||
> But like...also, I just won't buy one. The fact that the car isn't my ideal one does not require me to despise it, or really care about it at all. There are a lot of cars that I don't like for one reason or another.

Normally I'd agree with you, but driving a car brings with it with pretty extreme externalities - it's not the people driving these behemoths that I'm worried about, it's everyone else. Distracting touchscreens, an erratic self-driving AI, and a car made of sharp points. Doesn't bode well.

ThrowawayTestr 10/25/2024||
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archagon 10/25/2024||
Speak for yourself. I also hate the car.
apercu 10/25/2024||
Can you get insurance for them?
ThrowawayTestr 10/25/2024||
You can get insurance for anything if you pay enough.
anonfordays 10/28/2024|||
Every single Cybertruck on the road has insurance. You cannot take delivery without insurance.
qwerpy 10/26/2024||
State Farm charges me marginally more for my CT than they do for my Model Y.
mikestew 10/25/2024||
My witty retort would have been, “yeah, well, people bought the Pontiac Aztek, too.”, except Tesla has sold almost as many Cybertrucks in the 3rd quarter as Pontiac sold Azteks in an entire peak sales year.
bombcar 10/25/2024||
Was it the Aztek that had really rabid fans? It was one of those boxy ones.

Never could figure out if they actually had really good reasons for it or were just trying to justify having bought an Aztek.

bri3d 10/25/2024|||
You're probably thinking of the Element. There were a lot of reasons it ended up with a rabid fan-base: Honda reliability, available manual transmission, available all-wheel drive. It was overall a really practical vehicle for those who wanted something with a good amount of interior space who didn't care about frills or luxury. Amusingly the Element was targeted at then-millennial young buyers looking for "adventure," but ended up being more popular amongst older people looking for a practical daily driver.

The Aztek had some similar positive properties, but was from one of the particularly bad eras of GM malaise and was highly unreliable. It's had a tiny bit of a cult resurgence recently, but it was never popular in the way the Element was.

bombcar 10/25/2024||
I think you're right, it was the Element. People dismissed it as an Aztek but it had some features.

They all pale next to the true King of Vehicles - the Minivan.

travisb 10/25/2024||||
If you look at an Aztek today it doesn't stand out as unusual at all.

It feels like the Aztek was ahead of its time and many mid-size SUVs have since caught up with its aesthetic.

Spooky23 10/26/2024|||
The Aztek would have been a cult car if it wasn’t GM. It had the hoseable cabin, the center console was a removable cooler, etc.

But it had all of the stupid GMisms. Every expense was spared. It turned out to be like the malnourished love child of a Nissan Xterra and a Ford Windstar.

faggotbreath 10/25/2024||
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nothercastle 10/30/2024||
It’s popular for the same reason the pt cruiser was cool right up until it wasn’t
mensetmanusman 10/27/2024||
Some small business owners are saving $10k annually with electricity costs at the rate they are using them.
xnx 10/25/2024||
Alternate headline: Tesla sales dip below 50% of all EV sales.

Source: https://www.coxautoinc.com/market-insights/q3-2024-ev-sales/

diebeforei485 10/27/2024||
I don't think "percent of EV sales" is a meaningful metric. We should want more EV brands! Tesla allows others to use their patents and chargers specifically because they want more EV brands to exist as well!

Percent of total auto sales is a far better metric.

samatman 10/25/2024||
This appears to be an alternate article, rather than an alternate headline for this one.
nullindividual 10/25/2024|||
Cox Automotive generated the data[0] sourced in the second "paragraph" from the original article.

[0] https://www.coxautoinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Kelley...

xnx 10/25/2024|||
Didn't mean to confuse, this is an alternate interpretation of recent EV sales data.
foogazi 10/26/2024|
Personally when I see them in person I think they look dumb and ridiculous. But I have never driven it. I do like all other current Teslas but wouldn’t buy one because Elon

But I was driving with a non-tech, non-online friend and she blurted out “Wow what an ugly car”, I looked over and it was a cybertruck - so I felt validate in my views

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