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Posted by jasondavies 10/26/2024

We Can Terraform the American West(caseyhandmer.wordpress.com)
246 points | 316 commentspage 5
johnohara 10/26/2024|
> Indeed, solar PV is the first mass produced product where energy is an output rather than an input.

Fortunately, it takes no energy at all from inside the United States to manufacture solar panels in, you know, some place, over there, somewhere, that I have trouble pronouncing.

Doesn't matter. I just order them online and they magically show up on my doorstep.

lmaoguy 10/26/2024||
No.

You go live in a city. Leave nature alone. Send the rest back where they came from.

zft 10/26/2024||
great opportunity for hashicorp
jarebear6expepj 10/26/2024||
Won’t somebody please think of the sage grouse?
slipperybeluga 10/26/2024||
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TinkersW 10/26/2024|
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nroets 10/26/2024||
You forgot to mention all the CO2: Building new city will take a lot of concrete. More people traveling by plane etc.
hash872 10/26/2024|||
If the US had a population of 1 billion it would still be half the population density of Germany. I do not share your goal of leaving half of our continent sparsely populated for the sake of 'conservation'
mrthrowaway999 10/26/2024|||
Is there anything behind this stance or just pure simple misanthropy?
exe34 10/26/2024||
> I'd like to see the population trending downward,

oh that wish has already been granted. the world fertility rate is 2.3, and it has been falling precipitously for decades. once it gets to 2.1 we start depopulating an ageing population without a growing workforce (assuming no AI takeoff in the next decade) is going to be a lot of fun. you saved in your pension fund? too bad you can't eat numbers on a computer.

HelloMcFly 10/26/2024|||
We either have to learn to have a society that doesn't depend on ponzi-scheme style constant population growth or we just keep pursuing unfettered growth that [increasingly less slowly] destroys the ecosystems we ultimately depend on for survival, to say nothing of natural beauty.

I guess space colonization is a third variable here, but the feedback loop on that is likely to not materially affect our trajectory in either direction.

exe34 10/26/2024||
the problem is that we seem to have sleepwalked into depopulation. we had decades to plan ahead and automate our means of production and distribution but chose to keep the same economic system based on infinite growth going.

it's possible that a lot of the loss in working age people won't be that bad - "bullshit jobs" (Taleb) do make up a lot of the existing jobs, so perhaps it's only the economic system that needs to change and the underlying population and means of production will be enough to work with.