The Fediverse is getting its own TikTok competitor called Loops

Posted by ZacnyLos 10/26/2024

The Fediverse is getting its own TikTok competitor called Loops(techcrunch.com)

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INTPenis 10/27/2024|

I'm highly skeptical simply because such video apps requires very low latency video streaming, only available with accompanying cloud infrastructure.

And like others have pointed out, I don't think it's productive for the fediverse to go after this market.

Log_out_ 10/28/2024||

Wait.. the virtual crack only works due to massive server farms.Opwn source doesn't have these. So they need to acquire these. They need money for that, which means adds, which means closed source in the long run.

DeathArrow 10/27/2024||

It will have the same huge success Mastodon has.

kmfrk 10/27/2024||

Isn't hosting a Fediverse instance already cripplingly expensive?

Even YouTube was bleeding money when it was acquired.

kstrauser 10/27/2024||

Mine runs mostly on a $20 DigitalOcean instance. I only have ~5K users so it’s not a giant service, but it shows you can run a small server cheaply.

solarpunk 10/27/2024||

you have 5000 users on a mastodon instance?

i used to run an instance and i am skeptical of your numbers.

kstrauser 10/27/2024||

Yup. It’s been online for 7 years.

solarpunk 10/27/2024||

i am assuming the majority of those users are not active then?

are you using external storage for user media elsewhere?

do you federate with the broader ecosystem?

these numbers are otherwise nonsensical, a 20 dollar do droplet has like 100gb of storage space, and 3Tb of transfer, that'd be chewed up in less than a week by those users.

kstrauser 10/27/2024||

Of course they're not all active. As a past admin, you know that active users are probably closer to 10% of the total.

Oops, you were right about media storage. I use DigitalOcean's Spaces, and that's about another $20 per month for ~1.5TB of images and stuff.

wkat4242 10/28/2024||

Maybe take a look at scaleway, they have Unlimited bandwidth plans.

lawik 10/27/2024||

A Mastodon instance is kind of heavyweight. The caching/media seems painful. I seem to recall it is a Rails app which is not the most efficient.

Akkoma was a forward and more resource-efficient variant built in Elixir. Last I checked.

There are a gajillion *key forks. Think Misskey was the starting point.

Honk seems fun and is in Go.

Fediverse is not one software package. Mastodon is. Many are Mastodon-compatible.

pluto_modadic 10/27/2024||

Dan makes software so fast <3

erichocean 10/27/2024||

Maybe they can call it "Wirehead" instead.

brian-armstrong 10/27/2024||

Cool! Another federated doohickey nobody asked for and will never use

RiOuseR 10/27/2024||

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Sparkyte 10/27/2024||

Or maybe we can get regulate short-form media. I've never been a fan of such a wasteful format with so little accountability. You drastically shorten attention spans with such media that it doesn't benefit anyone. Although I've seen a few short-form media used to to explain small scientific phenomenons.

123yawaworht456 10/27/2024||

maybe we should also regulate stupid comments while we're at it

RiOuseR 10/27/2024|||

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Sparkyte 10/27/2024|||

Yeah your comment deserves regulation.

sph 10/27/2024||

What do you mean "regulate"? You make to make laws against it?

Sparkyte 10/30/2024||

We used to have regulation on TV and media for broadcasting before the Internet. This encouraged a level of standards across media that ensured the safety for viewers alike. While this might not seem like an issue for you as a user, statistically children watch more YouTube and social media than any other person. While this might be a parent problem restricting access the quick dopamine hits from shorts has a brain altering chemistry, yeah we can alter our own brains through reward treatment, to have a shorter attention span lowering the capacity for learning and excelling in a particular study or course.

hulitu 10/27/2024|

> The Fediverse is getting its own TikTok competitor called Loops

It is funny how SV is copying TikTok, while, at the same time, pushing hard to ban it.

Youtube already has TikTok copy (scroll to next video) from some time.

diggan 10/27/2024|

It's almost like the Fediverse isn't Silicon Valley, and Silicon Valley isn't the Fediverse, but instead they're two different groups of people with some overlap, but vastly different goals.