Moonshine, the new state of the art for speech to text

Posted by freediver 10/27/2024

Moonshine, the new state of the art for speech to text(petewarden.com)

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spencerchubb 10/27/2024|

So they're claiming SOTA because they compare against OpenAI as SOTA. What about Groq or fal.ai?

rjwilmsi 10/28/2024||

My take wasn't that they are claiming SOTA, just that they are claiming same/better accuracy than whisper "tiny" and "base" models at higher performance versus original whisper.

The WER scores on the larger whisper models are lower (better) than "tiny"/"base", so none of these small models are close to SOTA either way.

wut42 10/28/2024|||

Groq and fal are hosters of third party models. They cannot be SOTA.

Fal provides Whisper which is OpenAI.

Groq only hosts LLMs.

jibinmathew 10/31/2024||

Groq and Fal.ai just companies that host, they dont make models

elphinstone 10/27/2024||

Kind of a weird name choice, not very searchable and completely unrelated. But the tech looks great.

jaco6 10/27/2024||

I agree, it’s also irresponsible to name something that reminds many people of alcohol. I think they were trying to invoke the idea of the moonlight as reflecting the sun’s light, just as their software reflects the speech of the user.

I think “Artemis” or “Luna” would work better.

lemonberry 10/27/2024|||

As an alcoholic - sober 6 years on January 1, 2025 - I can comfortably say that my addiction is my problem. I do not expect the world to comport to my issues.

If an alcoholic is triggered by this name they need more tools in their toolkit.

The best thing anyone in recovery* can do is build up a toolkit and support system to stay sober. If one expects the world to isolate them from temptation they will never get sober.

* recovery: I loathe this term, but use it because it's familiar. My dislike for it is another conversation and unnecessary here.

Veen 10/27/2024||||

Luna stigmatizes people with mental illnesses (lunatic) and Artemis was the goddess of virginty—valorizing feminine virginity is misogynistic.

You can play this game with every possible name.

oezi 10/27/2024|||

Offensiveness is certainly a sliding scale and infused by the culture of the recipients. I agree with OP that some thought should be given to a name to not inflict hurt unnecessarily but also wouldn't have caught moonshine as a term celebrating alcoholism (which is still one of the most damaging drugs available, c.f. David Nutt's Drugs without the hot air).

vincnetas 10/27/2024|||

great example (tutorial) how to get offended by anything.

emptiestplace 10/27/2024||||

How is it irresponsible?

polotics 10/27/2024|||

I guess jaco6 thinks recovering addicts shouldn't be reminded of their addiction. I also guess that is casting a quite wide net on speech.

sirolimus 10/27/2024||||

I’m also awaiting an answer for such a preposterous claim. Let’s rename Svelte because it reminds me of Swedish pancakes and I have diabetes.

dijksterhuis 10/27/2024||

now i really want pancakes.

emptiestplace 10/27/2024||

Me too. People should really be more careful.

perching_aix 10/27/2024||||

Isn't it clearly a reference to the idiom "talking moonshine", making it a self-deprecating joke?

sirolimus 10/27/2024||||

You think it’s irresponsible to name something a drug?

taikahessu 10/27/2024||