Posted by perihelions 2 hours ago
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:19th-century_classica...
A fun game I like to play myself is "guess the composer". I think I shocked my friend the most when I watched West World with him and after seeing the intro only once I guessed correctly that it was the same composer as the Game of Thrones intro.
https://www.thepianofiles.com/the-valse-melancolique/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Mayer_(composer)
There was another (attributed) Chopin Waltz that was discovered about a century ago, and "professors of music" argued whether it really sounded like Chopin or not. I think they reached a consensus that it wasn't Chopin, but an unrelated contemporary called Charles Mayer.
- "In an email exchange we had relating to this discovery, Stephen Hough wrote (and gave me permission to publish) the following comments:"
- "It was not so much the structure which made me think from the first time I saw the piece (1936 edition) that it couldn’t be by Chopin but the compositional mistakes. Chopin was fastidious about such things and there is false note-leading, inaccurate spelling of accidentals and rough harmony (too many thirds, bad spacing). I also never thought it sounded Chopin-esque but much more Russian. I only put it on as a curiosity and insisted that the notes explain its doubtful attribution."
See for example Nahre Sol [1] who plays the same piece in the style of different composers. In order to do that, you need to have a deep understanding of each composer's "quirks".
Related to her, perhaps see her video "Is Chopin JAZZ?!":
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcfRqsjQA-4
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/27/arts/music/chopin-waltz-d...
https://vp.nyt.com/video/2024/10/15/127974_1_chopin-find-353... (.mp4)
The original is not paywalled for me!?
I believe luck with timing is the biggest determination.
How do they know they aren’t?
https://imslp.org/wiki/Broude_Brothers
In addition to all the publishing activities they also acted as verification service. Apparently it was common for Conductors to modify compositions which over time drifted from the original.
My understanding was that the family collection of sheet music stretched back in time so they could verify the modifications.
The building had about 12,0000 square feet stacked floor to ceiling sheet music.
Much of the sheet music ended up at the library of congress. I can believe things could be both archived and lost.