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Posted by spzb 3/28/2025

In the 1980s we downloaded games from the radio(newslttrs.com)
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DeathArrow 3/31/2025|
I was born in 1980 in an Eastern European country. You could download games and software from TV, too. Provided you had the hardware to run them.

In 1986, a friend of my father, who was a computer science teacher, showed me a ZX Spectrum clone built using a Z80 CPU clone, he used at high school to teach kids.

But it wasn't until I was 10 or 11 years old, after the fall of the communist regime my parents afforded to buy me a ZX Spectrum clone, when kids in other countries already used IBM compatible PCs.

I still have fond memories of it, it was the computer where I first tried to program, typing BASIC commands from books.

pasc1878 3/31/2025|
Also in the UK.

Ceefax provided various programs for the BBC Micro. Or more generally https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telesoftware

ratg13 3/31/2025||
Tangentially related, Radio Shack had a remote control robot called Robie Sr. You could move him around, turn his eyes on as lights, and make him say whatever you wanted through the remote.

The robot also had a tape deck, and if you hit record on the tape you could later playback the pre-recorded actions for the robot.

atoav 3/31/2025||
I know audio gear that does firmware updates via audio input.

The most obscure thing I have ever seen is a device that received firmware updates by strobing the bits as light into a photodiode. You would go to a website on your phone, press upload and hold the phone in front of the thing.

jandrese 3/31/2025|
There was a brief period during the late 90s/early 2000s before WiFi became ubiquitous that laptops came with IR transmitters/receivers for streaming data.

It was always touchy, slow, required an unbroken line of sight, and poorly supported by both the OS and application software, but I did make it work a couple of times. The PDAs of the time used a similar technology to send contact information (business cards) between devices.

bitwize 3/31/2025||
Some (I want to say mainly British) rock bands even included C64 games on their records.

The cassette interface to old 8-bitters is basically a modem, so you can transmit programs anywhere you can achieve a clear enough audio signal: cassettes, CDs, MP3 players, the radio...

ohgr 3/31/2025||
I pirated music from the radio too!
lifestyleguru 3/31/2025||
Home taping is killing music. You see what you've done? Modern music doesn't even have lyrics. Is ded.
flohofwoe 3/31/2025||
Nitpick: It's not 'pirating' when it's for your own use, only when you 'distribute' it to others. Of course nobody cared either way ;)
bmacho 3/31/2025||
Distributing later would be Robin-Hooding. Pirating is for personal gain
weinzierl 3/31/2025||
We downloaded from the radio and copied with our cheap Japanese ghetto blasters[1]. It was the easiest and fastest way.

[1] We used to use the term "boombox" but I am afraid no one still knows that term, so ghetto blaster it is.

ks2048 3/31/2025||
The closest thing I remember (late 80s) was getting video games by copying the BASIC source code (typing it out by hand) from magazines from the library.
anthk 3/31/2025||
Minimodem with and without Icecast can do today. But better if you share small games like the ZMachine ones.
pknerd 3/31/2025||
My brain is unable to grasp it..How does it work and at what speed things used to get downloaded?
gizajob 3/31/2025||
This is the “loading” of the classic ZX Spectrum computer game Manic Miner coded by programming genius Mathew Smith. The data is converted into audio and sold on cassette tapes. Instead of a disk drive, you would plug in an audio cassette tape player into the ZX Spectrum computer and “play” the sound into the computer, which would then read this audio as data and use it to load the game into memory, after which it could then be played. So instead of distributing the audio as cassette, in this case that same audio is broadcast over the radio and people would record it from the radio onto a cassette tape. Then playing the cassette into the computer would load (“download”) the game into the machine. Primitive but it works, and what we had to put up with.

Imagine being six years old and wanting to play Manic Miner, and having to sit there for 6 minutes while your TV did this before you could play the game:

https://youtu.be/kHn_BvTBALI?si=5CrKYa6DlNZTN7In

(Please watch in full without doing anything else or scrolling for the authentic experience)

nunez 3/31/2025|||
More or less just like Wi-Fi.

Your wi-fi access point takes electrical signals coming from something else, like a router, and turns them into radio waves that are captured by the antenna on your phone or computer. This is, then, fed to the Wi-Fi controller on your phone or computer which translates these transmissions back into electrical signals.

Loads of math are involved in getting it right, but that's the gist of it.

esafak 3/31/2025|||
The data is encoded in subtle shifts in the frequency. This is a type of modulation. Look up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_modulation and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency-shift_keying
drivers99 3/31/2025|||
This series of videos walks through building a circuit to decode one type of audio data format that was used in the 80s and send data to a computer and discusses how the audio signal works and simple circuit to turn it into digital data https://www.gregorystrike.com/2023/01/07/kansas-city-standar...

(I just got another one of these kits because I had previously built, successfully tested, then threw it out after I had some issues using it as-is, but I want to build it again with the additional electronics experience I have now.)

jpalomaki 3/31/2025||
Regular audio cassettes were also used as storage medium for software. Distributing over radio just mean playing these tapes. And people could then record the broadcast at home and load the software from cassette.
kookamamie 3/31/2025|
We then made turbo tapes out of them and crammed tens of games onto single C-cassettes.
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