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Posted by ghuntley 3/31/2025

Everything is Ghibli(carly.substack.com)
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icu 4/1/2025|
I think AI is just leverage for whatever you want to do. How you use that leverage, and what you apply it to is what matters. It's just another tool for humanity.
rufus_foreman 4/1/2025||
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krapp 4/1/2025||
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anigbrowl 4/1/2025||
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rufus_foreman 4/1/2025||
I read the article. I didn't find anything out.
anigbrowl 4/1/2025||
I don't believe you. The third paragraph stated 'Soon everyone ... was stylizing themselves, their kids, 9/11, and memes into the soft, pastel aesthetic of Japan’s beloved animation house,' with a link to the Wikipedia page about Studio Ghibli, along with pictorial examples.
zombiwoof 3/31/2025||
Silicon Valley doesn’t care

They are like the Mafia.

“I don’t care, pay me”

bfrog 4/1/2025||
AI stealing yet again.
shmerl 3/31/2025|
Hayao Miyazaki is frying this kind of idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngZ0K3lWKRc

> I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself

falcor84 3/31/2025||
I can't help but feel that at least a significant part of his reaction is due to the subject matter of AI zombies crawling in what we imagine would be painful poses without feeling pain, rather than just the technology itself.
pixelpoet 3/31/2025|||
Likewise, I feel like the article presents a somewhat manufactured "quote" and misinterpretation of what was being referred to in the linked video.

Unfortunately I'm sure this sensationalised fake-quote will spread much more quickly than any context / checking.

shmerl 3/31/2025|||
I don't see how. This kind of AI has no mind and can't feel anything, so it has no component that's needed for expressing feelings in art. That's his main point. That was true then, it's true today.
pixelpoet 3/31/2025||
What was shown in the video seems to be something like Karl Sims' work[0], which is completely different (genetic algorithm for optimising black-box locomotion within a physics simulation framework) from AI image generation / what we're currently calling "Ghiblification".

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZtZia4ZkX8

imtringued 4/1/2025|||
I agree. They were clearly going for a bipedal gait and failed to produce anything in time. Then they swapped the model with a zombie to sweep their failure under the rug.

Hayao Miyazaki is just calling them out in a diplomatic way.

bl4ckneon 4/1/2025||||
I thought the same thing, it wasn't a quote about all AI, it was in direct response to what he saw which was a "person" like limbing on the floor in a creepy way.
gilbetron 4/1/2025|||
"I would never wish to incorporate this technology into my work at all. I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself."

The "insult to life" is specifically about the tech, from my reading. Granted, if he had been shown something less grotesque, maybe he would've responded differently? I doubt it, the guy doesn't like CGI either.

paxys 4/1/2025|||
This video is shared a lot to represent Miyazaki's feelings on AI, but all I see is him reacting to one specific video on the screen - grotesque/bloody figures crawling on the floor in totally unnatural motions. He specifically says he doesn't like it because it seems to make light of the suffering of disabled people. There zero feedback on the AI whatsoever. Who knows what he would have said if the engineers had built something closer to the company's artistic vision.
GuB-42 4/1/2025|||
In all fairness, Hayao Miyazaki is famously grumpy about everything, especially when related to modern society. I wouldn't have expected anything less.

A common meme is to put him side to side with Junji Ito. Hayao Miyazaki as the grumpy old man whose work is cute and happy, and Junji Ito as the nice and cheerful guy whose work is the thing of nightmares.

Junji Ito's take on AI, is that he worries for his profession, but he thinks he still has something AIs can't replicate, at least for now. As expected, while both of them oppose AI, they do it in a way that couldn't be more different.

zombiwoof 4/1/2025||
Someone’s attitude shouldn’t prejudice you against their opinion
GuB-42 4/1/2025||
When someone who dislikes most things says he dislikes something, it carries less weight than when someone who is naturally enthusiastic does.

Hayao Miyazaki disliking AI is just Hayao Miyazaki being himself. Had he been enthusiastic about it, it would have been very noteworthy.

It can probably be modeled using Bayesian statistics or something.

sva_ 3/31/2025|||
Crucially, this was before the transformer paper, "Attention is all you need", or any of the diffusion models had been released.

This just looks like some painful RL or evolutionary algorithms, at best.

Ekaros 4/1/2025|||
What he is criticising here is not AI or AI art. But instead of rather old machine learning trying to achieve some type of ambulation or human like gait. Which I think is some level cool. But also artistically is clearly grotesque and not something that should be widely presented.

Just think of using this type of movement or actions in media specially a film. That would be entirely unworkable and doomed idea. Disgust from most viewers would be similar.

facile3232 3/31/2025||
"I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself"

I emphatically appreciate Miyazaki. Even if you take him as hyperbolic, or perhaps biased due to differences in intention between the engineer team and artistry he represents, it's very positive to have strongly opinionated voices in the room that can clearly articulate why. The anecdote about pain and stiffness is succinct but exactly what is necessary to communicate specifically what is missing from the animations at hand.

However, I'm curious what he would have thought about someone playing QWOP. I wonder if he would be more fully bought into such a concept (well outside his own work of course) if such technology might emphasize appreciation for life rather than trying to mimic/bastardize/reproduce it.