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Posted by trevin 4/2/2025

Why is the world losing color?(www.culture-critic.com)
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BloodyIron 4/2/2025|
Why is nobody talking about how Car Insurance is typically higher with any real colour selections? Insurance companies calculate that vehicles with certain colours (for example, Red) have a higher statistical probability of being in a collision than say... grey. This has created a downward pressure for people who would like colours in their vehicles, but would instead prefer to just pay less in car insurance since they may be aware of this aspect.

I for one don't like that car insurance companies do this, but this very likely is a huge reason why fewer people buy vehicles with colour beyond Grey/etc.

legitster 4/2/2025|
I think this is a myth (at least in the US). I don't even have to provide the color of my car to get an insurance quote.

The exception (maybe the source of the myth) is that cars with custom or exotic colors will cost more if you opt for comprehensive coverage.

throwaway422432 4/3/2025|||
Can't speak for the US, but having built a few versions of a car insurance comparison tool for a popular Australian comparison site; colour was a factor used by a few insurers: yellow & white getting a discount; grey, black, dark green costing more. WHile red and orange are perceived as being sporty, factors such as a driver under 30 with a Nissan 300ZX, WRX or a V8 would blow out a premium far more and some insurers wouldn't even take the risk.
Ylpertnodi 4/2/2025|||
>I think this is a myth (at least in the US). I don't even have to provide the color of my car to get an insurance quote.

When I renew my insurance, on the website it shows 'grey'. They know what colour your car is.

legitster 4/2/2025||
The color is usually required to tie it back to government databases. I can change my car color and it doesn't affect my quote at all.

https://www.progressive.com/answers/red-car-myths/ https://www.allstate.com/resources/car-insurance/do-red-cars...

guyzero 4/2/2025||
There's a really interesting book about this exact topic: https://reaktionbooks.co.uk/work/chromophobia

edit: ha, the book is mentioned halfway through the essay. I should finish reading before commenting.

I agree with the book's thesis - there's an impulse to associate colour with "the oriental, the feminine, the infantile, the vulgar, or the pathological" in contemporary western society. We've somehow managed to other color itself.

"The central argument of Chromophobia is that a chromophobic impulse – a fear of corruption or contamination through colour – lurks within much Western cultural and intellectual thought. This is apparent in the many and varied attempts to purge colour, either by making it the property of some ‘foreign body’ – the oriental, the feminine, the infantile, the vulgar, or the pathological – or by relegating it to the realm of the superficial, the supplementary, the inessential, or the cosmetic. Chromophobia has been a cultural phenomenon since ancient Greek times; this book is concerned with forms of resistance to it. Writers have tended to look no further than the end of the nineteenth century. David Batchelor seeks to go beyond the limits of earlier studies, analysing the motivations behind chromophobia and considering the work of writers and artists who have been prepared to look at colour as a positive value. Exploring a wide range of imagery including Melville’s ‘great white whale’, Huxley’s reflections on mescaline, and Le Corbusier’s ‘Journey to the East’, Batchelor also discusses the use of colour in Pop, Minimal, and more recent art."

shocks 4/2/2025||
I have a bright coloured car and it’s easy to find in the car park!
johnea 4/3/2025||
> "Baroque art" ?

I guess these people weren't alive in the 1960s 8-/ The psychedelic era had color everywhere.

Not only color in design, but in people's general appearance. When I look through my highschool yearbook (1977), I'm shocked (shocked I tell you) at how _different_ everyone looked, not from now, but from each otther, then. I'm not just talking about stoners vs jocks, everyone had an individual look based around their overall physical characteristics.

Now, it's mostly Justin Beeber nazi-haircuts, and the ubiquitous "please run me over in the crosswalk" black clothing fashion statement.

In general, people aren't attempting to have an autonomous indivduality, instead everyone (wing-nut and woke-nut alike) are striving to value posture in their chosen identity "community".

How boring...

mwkaufma 4/2/2025||
Wait, his "graph" measures a greater gamut of colors in photos from the nineteenth century when they were all B/W? Who's still buying this retvrn hucksterism?
drivers99 4/2/2025||
Current photos of old objects. I admit I had the same question based on the caption included in the graph itself, which just says "photos."

> a study of over 7,000 objects in the UK’s Science Museum found that the colors of consumer goods have been steadily neutralized since 1800. Bright, saturated tones have been giving way to gray, beige, and taupe for centuries.

shoxidizer 4/2/2025||
The graph is from a study of objects held in the collection of a museum, not photographs by year they were taken. It says so in this article.

https://lab.sciencemuseum.org.uk/colour-shape-using-computer...

mwkaufma 4/2/2025||
Yeah you're right, I jumped the gun there. On the other hand, color trends of science museum exhibits are a cherry-picked example. "Culture Critic"'s whole shtick is to put a photo of a modernist building next to an ornamental one, and this just seems to be that, but with a superficial layer of scientism.
shoxidizer 4/2/2025||
Personally I think the collection used is pretty good, not perfect but not cherry picking. I find CC's explanation unsatisfactory and loose, mostly placing the blame on philosphers that predate the recent trend of less color by decades or millennia, and skipping over well known major events in the history of color fashion. But I do agree that ornamentation and color are less common today in architecture and product design than they were in prior decades, and than they were for much of history. Except perhaps for a narrow band of blue.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Male_Renunciation

megmogandog 4/2/2025||
The loss of color is concerning, but something I find interesting is the image the author chooses to illustrate Loos' quote, "We have achieved plain, undecorated simplicity." I would argue the building pictured falls short of this goal in important ways. A lot of contemporary architecture lacks the modernist commitment to flat planes, pure volumes, etc. and adds lazy and useless decorative/textural elements. The building pictured would look better if it was less adorned! (But even better with some color)

The ugliness of the contemporary world isn't a result of modernism, but rather neoliberal indifference to beauty.

tqi 4/2/2025||
"The answer isn’t just about fashion or materials, but is rooted in a much older understanding of the relationship between color and truth."

Nah it's just fashion and materials. Even if you just look at apples product line, you can see they went from colorful plastic to monochrome metal and glass to how reintroducing colors to several of their product lines.

People want so badly for there to be underlying, global conspiracy that they see it everywhere.

pb060 4/2/2025||
What I find infuriating is to see colors stripped from children’s toys and clothes, especially by Northern Europe brands. Those dull beige taupe tones might attract parents but I’m sure that they bring little joy and stimulation to children.
ctrlp 4/2/2025||
Adolf Loos designed some incredibly sumptuous interiors. They aren't lacking in color. Methinks he's being used unjustly as a scapegoat to grind some axe. To me, this essay is an example of "slop."
rhet0rica 4/2/2025|
To double down on that notion—the baroque rococo interiors that the author idolises at the end were the exclusive purview of the astonishingly wealthy, in no small part because of how expensive they were to implement. Accordingly they were equated with absolutism and corruption.

It's hard to decide how much of the author's position is born from ignorance versus how much of it is born from disingenuousness.

kelseyfrog 4/2/2025|
Color is the last vestige of ornamentation[1].

Modern design didn’t kill color. It put it on probation. Stripped of aesthetic authority, color now has to justify its existence or get cut. No more freedom to wander or express, it shows up for assigned tasks only: branding, signage, error states, traffic lights.

In the cult of "form follows function," color met the axe. We no longer trust it to create, only to comply. Expressiveness? No. Just signal. Never art. A century after Ornament and Crime, we put color on a PIP. Beauty must be functionalized.

1. https://www2.gwu.edu/~art/Temporary_SL/177/pdfs/Loos.pdf

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