Matrix.org Will Migrate to MAS

Posted by LorenDB 4/2/2025

Matrix.org Will Migrate to MAS(matrix.org)

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kibwen 4/2/2025|

Discord's ongoing enshittification may create a market opportunity for alternatives in the near future. I'd like to think that Matrix could be a beneficiary of that, but the common-case UX needs to be polished damn well when the time comes if they want to capitalize.

Arathorn 4/2/2025||

MAS and Next Gen Auth open up the way to things like QR-login (complete with syncing all E2EE state and verification!) which should help enormously with common-case UX.

See https://youtu.be/ZiRYdqkzjDU?t=966 for a demo of it from The Matrix Conference in Sept, or https://youtu.be/lkCKhP1jxdk?t=1832 showing it working in on a fresh instance of element-docker-demo at FOSDEM 2025.

74848732648 4/3/2025||

Eh... Discord's enshittified client is still a hundred times more usable than Element — for all its faults, at least Discord is able to deliver and display messages reliably ("unable to decrypt message", anyone?). And for the more technologically oriented, client mods do a lot to improve the Discord UX.

Element X is supposed to improve things, but it's stuck on Android and iOS for the foreseeable future.

genewitch 4/3/2025||

I haven't seen that message in literal years.

oofbey 4/2/2025||

So Matrix is the new XMPP?

vaylian 4/3/2025|

Did XMPP ever use these protocols for authentication?

Arathorn 4/3/2025||

fwiw, there's a XEP for OIDC in XMPP from last year: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0493.html. ATproto is also moving to it as its primary auth mechanism: https://github.com/bluesky-social/atproto/discussions/2656.

spintin 4/4/2025||

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frankzander 4/2/2025||

Does actually exist matrix servers for warez?

sanatgersappa 4/3/2025|

Anybody tried Simplex? - https://simplex.chat/