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Posted by Fred34 4/3/2025

I maintain a 17 year old ThinkPad(pilledtexts.com)
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xtenduke 4/3/2025|
I too had a Thinkpad T400, in about 2013. Compiling my undergrad university course code made the music I was listening to skip. Modern software sucks, I can not imagine using a core2duo to do any task other than ssh/word processing
TonyTrapp 4/3/2025|
I was using a W500 (same generation) until 2018 or so. Upgraded RAM, installed an SSD, and it was my daily driver until the end. But already back then it started to become unbearbly slow especially with background procesesses like file syncing to different machines.
tristor 4/3/2025||
I used to do this, I have "retro modded" Thinkpads. I keep one still running (X61p) to use as a car computer. I've since switched everything I do that isn't on my Macbook to a Framework 13 AMD. The Framework 13, other than the case design being flimsier plastic vs magnesium alloy, is better at everything a new Thinkpad does than a new Thinkpad, and is roughly equivalent to an old with modern specs. As much as I wish that Lenovo would make a modern equivalent to the X60/X61, that's never happening, so Framework 13 is the best choice right now.
Melatonic 4/3/2025|
Retro modded like you replaced the mobo and whatnot ? How hard was it ?
dmwilcox 4/3/2025||
Have a near 10 year old Librem (original 13"), works fine. But if it breaks I'm getting an old Thinkpad and putting coreboot on it.

Perhaps my usage is too light, no IDEs, no electron anything, no streaming, and few tabs because I shutdown the laptop instead of suspend it -- but I don't see what all the fuss is about needing to upgrade anything. 16gb of ram and an i5 is fine, even for the modern web, disable JavaScript and/or run ublock origin.

The new fangled ARM stuff ;) strikes me as essentially similar in character to smartphones: future e-waste with no possibility of repair. Choose wisely, choose x86 and modularity

animal531 4/3/2025||
I have a 2nd generation iPad and its amazing how well it still runs.

Of course I can't do anything with it because you can't update the OS and without having a new OS you can't actually download or run anything from the shop.

apples_oranges 4/3/2025|
Same for my third gen.

Well, at least I updated the root certificate on it and it's good as a PDF reader, book reader and music player still.

animal531 4/3/2025||
I should probably do the same since my Kindle has packed up and will no longer start, so I could at least use the pad for that.
gwbas1c 4/3/2025||
(Joke)

What do you mean a Thinkpad is repairable? If a chip dies, you have to go out and buy a new chip!

Whatever happened to the days where you could just wire in a new transistor yourself?

(/Joke)

Jokes aside, my point is that this article is splitting hairs about where repairability and integration lies. It's not worth opening up a failing RAM module to find the microscopic broken transistor. For many of us, it's not worth repairing an old laptop, but instead we'd rather have the advantages of everything soldered to the mainboard.

(Although I will admit to repairing an old Mac laptop. The fans started to squeak, so I changed them.)

linacica 4/3/2025||
My school recently (about 1.5 years ago) upgraded all their machines to ThinkPads(laptops & desktops)(11 gen Intel CPUs, desktops with A2000 GPUs), i seen other Thinkpad machines which try to copy Apple's design choices but these don't, they're big, thick, and have a lot of newer features, but also dropped some things which caused issues, for example: VGA port, there are quite few USB ports, if you know school environment you may know it's very rash environment we have HDMI to VGA adapters they constantly go bad because the cable is heavy & adapter too
Saris 4/3/2025||
Having used old thinkpads I just don't really understand the appeal, especially with how poor old LCDs look. The trackpads are tiny, the battery life is abysmal, they're heavy and like an inch thick.
rc_mob 4/3/2025||
Macbook superior screen is the only reason i switched from thinkpad t-series. Everything you listed can be ignored or you get used to it. Not like macbook touchpad is without its own annoyances.
piuantiderp 4/3/2025||
One does not use the trackpad in a thinkpad. If anything they should be removed. The old keyboards are a dream to type on... Only computer that came close (that I had was HP DV1000)
Saris 4/3/2025||
Yeah I've tried the little track nub things but they don't work well for me, a good track pad is much quicker.
Melatonic 4/3/2025||
It takes a decent amount of practice and you need to adjust the sensitivity settings. Eventually though I would say they can be more accurate than most trackpads (excluding a good Apple trackpad - those are great)

The real advantage though is your hands never need to leave the keyboard between mouse and typing (for speed)

globular-toast 4/3/2025||
This is why I've always preferred full size PCs. But if I were to get a laptop it sounds like it would be a 17 year old ThinkPad. Are the newer ones the same? This wasn't clear in the article.

My PC is ten years old now. It's always run GNU/Linux and feels noticeably snappier than more recent machines with their bloated software. I've maxed out the CPU and RAM on it, overclocked it, added a nice AMD workstation GPU so I could run two 4k screens. I guess the thing is it really feels like I own it. I don't feel the same about phones and tablets.

Steve44 4/5/2025||
I don't have a lot to add other than I'm still using a T61p several times a week. It's got by far the best screen[1] I've ever had on a laptop and the keyboard is also lovely.

It's running Win7 and I only use it for RDP onto work. The battery is screwed, perhaps lasts 10 seconds so just enough to cover quickly moving it.

[1] 1920 x 1200 and very matt. It's just stunningly clear and easy on the eyes with great colour rendition.

geocrasher 4/3/2025|
My T420 has a couple of upgrades: Memory (16GB) and SSD (250GB). That's it. It's bone stock otherwise. When my buddy's laptop screen cracked, we had a hard time finding a new one. He took my T420 to work every day for a few months, and it came back to me more banged up than when it left. It's fine. And it did the job admirably.

I need to do some automotive tuning/testing and guess what, the T420 is where its at for that, too. It's no longer good as a daily driver, but it'll do everything else just fine.

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