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Posted by arizen 4/9/2025

Fake job seekers are flooding US companies that are hiring for remote positions(www.cnbc.com)
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riskable 4/9/2025|
"Flooding US companies"? I don't think so. The article lost my trust when it framed the North Korea incident like this:

> More than 300 U.S. firms inadvertently hired impostors with ties to North Korea for IT work

"Impostors" implies that the people they hired couldn't do the job. That's not true: These were people who just faked their location/identity. They had the skills and worked for a long time for those companies. As far as the company was concerned, they were just regular employees. If they couldn't do the job they would've been fired.

If these "impostor" employees actually couldn't do the job and they somehow were able to stick around for as long as they did there's a different sort of crisis going on in "US companies" that has to do with management.

wpietri 4/9/2025|
So one, I don't think you know what the word "impostor" means. If somebody faked your wife's identity, I think you could be reasonably upset even if she could "do the job" adequately, and it would be weird indeed to say she wasn't an impostor.

But two, are you serious with "If they couldn't do the job they would've been fired"? I think the most charitable assumption I could make is that you must not have been in the working world long. There are plenty of places that are bad noticing and getting rid of underperformers, even when everybody involved is well meaning. If somebody is actively running it as a scam, it could be hard indeed to detect. And really, they don't have to evade detection forever. Even a few months of paycheck may be more than enough for them to cover the costs of getting the jobs.

hiAndrewQuinn 4/9/2025|
This could be solved by companies charging $1 to apply for a given position. Same as charging people a small amount to send emails. Turn the economics in your favor.

Undoubtedly there would be many who would say "I would never spend even one cent to apply for a job position". However, given that such positions tend to pay tens of dollars per hour, and given that a proper application takes at least a few minutes to fill out, I think this is economically unviable. And, of course, if I'm wrong and you now have thousands of applicants anyway, you then have a small fund to draw from for other recruiting activities like in-person interviews.

vlod 4/9/2025||
Works both ways. How many time have devs wasted their time where it says 'competitive salary' (which they don't want to reveal) but in fact it's nowhere close.

Or a job description which has X, but X is a very small subset but in fact its a mostly legacy system using Y.

Want to pay me for my time?

confidantlake 4/10/2025||
Great, now we get 100x more fake jobs flooding the internet.