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Posted by gmays 4/9/2025

CERN releases report on the feasibility of a possible Future Circular Collider(home.cern)
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neals 4/13/2025|
I feel like with all the silly things humans do, every remotely feasible physics experiment should be top priority on getting funding and attention. Isn't finding out how the universe works, by far, the only thing that matters?
adrianN 4/13/2025||
One can plausibly argue that finding out how the universe works is one of the things that matters least.
f6v 4/13/2025|||
There’re so many people who think they already know how it works. And that’s a huge problem.
exe34 4/13/2025|||
only if you have no imagination or want to be 'discovered' and civilised.
voidfunc 4/13/2025|||
This is such a privileged "I dont have real problems" take its hilarious.
daseiner1 4/13/2025|||
i’d imagine food shelter and dignified employment rank just a little higher.

in terms of higher-order needs, meaningful connection and love are quite a bit more important to me.

NitpickLawyer 4/13/2025||
> food shelter and dignified employment

None of those are technological or even theoretical problems, tho. We (humanity as a whole) thoroughly understand all of them. Whatever your post meant with listing them is stemming from politics more than scientific understanding. I don't think there's a politician's head collider out there, but maybe we should build one.

dgellow 4/13/2025|||
Resource allocation is political
exe34 4/13/2025|||
there was a scene in SG-1 where O'Neill locks up a bunch of aliens in a room and said they would not be released until they came to some agreement.

I always thought there should be a religious army with the entire world's military might, who's central tenet is that they do and decide nothing except enforce what the nations decide - and the nations get to decide in any way they want except violence - but they may choose a champion on each side of a divide, and the champions may hold a knife fight to the death. the army would then enforce the deal of the winner's side.

tiborsaas 4/13/2025|||
Yes, but it needs some rebranding / reframing. We should declare a global war on the universe and spend all the military budget on research and development to exploit its secrets.
constantcrying 4/13/2025||
>every remotely feasible physics experiment should be top priority on getting funding and attention.

There are innumerable "feasible" experiments, far exceeding global GDP.

>Isn't finding out how the universe works, by far, the only thing that matters?

Is trying to maximize our understanding of a small part of physics really the best way to go about this. Is it even more important than curing cancer.

elric 4/13/2025||
Is there any particular reason why they keep building colliders with ever increasing diamaters, instead of going vertical? If we can create magnetic fields strong & precise enough to force particles into a very large loop, surely we can bend the loop upwards ever so slightly and gain additional distance by coiling the collider like a spring?

Seems like an insane amount of tunnels is always needed for these things, which is obviously expensive and labour intensive.

igiveup 4/13/2025||
The point is minimizing curvature, not maximizing length. Curved path makes the accelerated particles lose energy through radiation.
elric 4/14/2025||
Interesting, thanks fot clearing that up. I was under the impression that the length was where it's at.
petschge 4/13/2025||
For scale: The LHC has more than 11km diameter and the deepest mine we have built is 4km. Adding vertical distance is much harder than making the diameter of the circular tunnel larger.
elric 4/14/2025||
I worded that poorly, I didn't mean to say that the entire distance should be covered vertically, but rather that a second loop could be wound on top of the first.
jxjnskkzxxhx 4/15/2025||
It always blows my mind to see the anti-intelectualism of HN.
nullbio 4/12/2025||
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dieortin 4/13/2025|
Surely what the world needs is to redirect more funding to AI
throw8494949 4/13/2025|
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