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Posted by SebaSeba 4/13/2025

The dark side of the Moomins(www.newstatesman.com)
310 points | 99 commentspage 2
lifeisstillgood 4/13/2025|
They are children’s tales - which are designed to hide lessons and warnings on the dark side of life in a wrapper that does not traumatise - like an inoculation against what comes.

Everything the Grimms brothers collected and Disney sanitised still hides warnings.

I have read all my children “The Tiger who came to Tea” as well as taken them to theatre performances- and the author ran from Germany hours before the Gestapo came knocking and it affected much of her life and writing (“Hitler Stole Pink Rabbit” is the autobiography I think)

So yeah. It’s got layers onion boy, layers.

Still have fond memories of my kid hugging a six foot moomin in Covent Garden.

logifail 4/13/2025|
"Kerr, however, stated more than once that the tiger represents nothing more than a tiger, and had no relevance to her upbringing"[0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tiger_Who_Came_to_Tea

y2236li 4/13/2025||
That’s a really interesting take on the Moomins. I agree that the misinterpretations of their tales are fascinating – it highlights how stories can be shaped by our own perspectives. I especially appreciate how you highlight the resilience of the family dynamic, even with its dysfunction. It’s a thoughtful and somewhat melancholic, yet captivating, perspective, and I can see how that resonates with you.
internet_points 4/14/2025||
For anyone who has just seen the tv shows, I highly recommend reading the books. There are so many layers to her stories.
stevage 4/13/2025||
I had no idea it was such a large enterprise. I'm in Australia, and read one of the books as a kid. But other than that, I don't think I ever encountered any form of them, or even really heard anyone mention them, until the recent movie adaptation.
sibeliuss 4/13/2025||
Just got done reading Moominpapa's Memoirs to my kid! Great book.
hiAndrewQuinn 4/13/2025||
My favorite piece of Moomin lore is that the very first proto-Moomin sketch was a caricature of Immanuel Kant Tove made to tease her sister, who was a big fan of that guy.
buovjaga 4/13/2025|
I read that same story a long time ago, but apparently it had things mixed up and this is the way it actually went down: https://www.moomin.com/en/blog/the-story-of-moomintrolls/

"On a summer day, she was discussing literary philosophy with her brother Per Olov Jansson next to the outhouse at their summer cottage in the archipelago. Tove quoted Immanuel Kant, who Per Olov immediately downplayed. To get back at her brother, Tove drew the ugliest creature she could imagine on the outhouse wall. That drawing, out of chance, is the first glimpse of a Moomin-like figure, although Tove called it a Snork."

helsinkiandrew 4/13/2025||
Who will comfort Toffle is a very moving book about loneliness

https://www.moomin.com/en/blog/who-will-comfort-toffle-backs...

> But when he tries to write about how lonely he has been, About his house and Hemulen, the smooth white shell he’s seen,

> The Groke, the night he sailed the sea, he finds no words will come. He is too shy to write his tale. Poor Toffle is struck dumb.

> So Who Will Comfort Toffle now? Will someone lend a hand And help him write to Miffle so that she can understand?

mystraline 4/13/2025||
I'll pass along a joke I read years ago.

Mozzarella is moomin meat.

danslaboudoir 4/13/2025||
The introduction of The Groke absolutely terrified me when I was younger. I put it up there with the Xenomorph in terms of a mysterious, capable, superior foe.
account-5 4/13/2025|
I never read any of the books, didn't actually know they were originally a book. I grew up with the TV show though. Hated it. I've never watched TV or film for the feels. Tv and film for me is escapism, I don't want to be depressed or have to think. I'm assuming this is why I never liked the moomins.
fsckboy 4/13/2025||
Tove wrote them as escapist escape:

(FTA)

The Moomin stories were born, Jansson wrote to her friend Eva, “when I was feeling sad and scared of bombs and wanted to get away from gloomy thoughts… I would creep into an unbelievable world where everything was natural and friendly – and possible.”

tarvaina 4/13/2025||
There are actually six different TV series:

1959: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Muminfamilie

1969: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomin_(1969_TV_series)

1972: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Moomin

1977: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moomins_(TV_series)

1990: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomin_(1990_TV_series)

2019: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moominvalley_(TV_series)

sandgiant 4/13/2025||
I highly recommend the 1990 Polish stop motion TV series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moomins_(TV_series). The only one that, to me, captures the magic of the books.
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