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Posted by DamonHD 4/15/2025

It's easier than ever to de-censor videos(www.jeffgeerling.com)
387 points | 158 commentspage 2
HPsquared 4/15/2025|
I wonder how much random noise (or other randomness) would have to be added to the pixelated version to make this method unusable.
miki123211 4/15/2025|
If you really want that blur effect so badly, you can just replace your content with something innocuous, and then blur that innocuous content.

This is what you actually have to do with websites, e.g. when you want some content blurred when it's behind a paywall. If you leave the original text intact, people can just remove the CSS blur in dev tools.

Some implementations get this slightly wrong, and leave the placeholder content visible to accessibility tools, which sometimes produces hilarious and confusing results if you rely on those.

Funes- 4/15/2025||
Japanese porn is being "decensored" with AI as we speak, in fact. It looks a tad uncanny, still, but finding a "decensored" clip in the wild was quite the thing for me a couple of weeks ago.
internetter 4/15/2025||
This is a completely different process — the AI is inferencing what goes there, it isn't actually using any information from the pixels so it wouldn't work in this case.

Not to mention deeply and disturbingly unethical

sva_ 4/15/2025|||
It would use information from the pixels around it though.

> Not to mention deeply and disturbingly unethical

Is it really deeply disturbingly unethical? Just FYI, it isn't their identities that are censored, but their genitals are pixelated due to Japanese laws.

Funes- 4/15/2025||
>It would use information from the pixels around it though.

I'd bet it could use information from the pixels around it and the blurred out ones as well. It's not hard to imagine such an approach.

gjsman-1000 4/15/2025||||
So let me get this straight: Porn can be ethical - selling your nude features online can be ethical - doing the activities in porn consensually can be ethical - pleasuring yourself on other people doing so can be ethical - but using AI to infer nude features is "disturbingly unethical"?
ziddoap 4/15/2025|||
>but using AI to infer nude features is "disturbingly unethical"?

If it is against the wishes of the people in the video, yes, yes it is.

E: Never thought I'd see the day I'm downvoted for saying un-blurring porn of people who made porn under the assumption that it would be blurred (and may not have made that same decision without that context) is unethical, on HN of all places, but times are strange I guess.

anigbrowl 4/15/2025|||
In this case it's a legal requirement imposed by the government.
googlryas 4/15/2025||
Yes, but their decisions to be porn stars were made within the context of that law. Maybe they wouldn't care about the uncensored version of their video getting out. Maybe they would?
Der_Einzige 4/15/2025|||
Piracy is the opposite of unethical, because information wants to be free. IP rights holders had their NAP violated - and society is better off for it.

The reason it's "against the wishes" of folks in a JAV video is because of the legal risk it opens them up to from the Japanese government - not because the actors/actresses "don't consent to viewers seeing their uncensored body".

Note that I am NOT talking about distribution of non consensual deepfakes. Obviously that's abhorrent.

ziddoap 4/16/2025||
>not because the actors/actresses "don't consent to viewers seeing their uncensored body".

How can you possibly know this? They made the career decision while knowing what the law was. They may not have made that decision if the law was different.

GuinansEyebrows 4/15/2025|||
only one of these things has an intrinsic environmental tax exponentially higher than the rest.
kbelder 4/15/2025||
You think using AI on the video has a higher environmental impact than actually filming the video in the first place?
beeflet 4/16/2025|||
why is it so deeply unethical to remix porn into... porn
dopadelic 4/15/2025||
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feverzsj 4/15/2025||
You should try "AV-8500 Special" from 90s' Japan.

[0] https://groups.google.com/g/alt.video.laserdisc/c/Ws6h9uiumF...

[1] https://x.com/nabetora164/status/1660981662006775809

netsharc 4/16/2025|
I once thought the publishers of those videos would use a reversible algorithm, as malicious compliance...

Or having the pixelated parts be a particular pattern, and then releasing an XOR video to get the original footage..

zoky 4/15/2025||
I also have a network share named “mercury” connected to my Mac, and that last example nearly made me shit myself.
geerlingguy 4/15/2025|
Ha! I name most of my shares after celestial bodies... Jupiter is the big 100 TB volume for all my archives. Mercury is an all-NVMe volume for speed, for my video editing mostly.
zoky 4/16/2025||
Heh, mine is actually called mercury because I took to naming all of my homelab systems after Roman and Greek mythology, so the server was called “minerva” because of the knowledge it stores, and the share name was “mercury” because it was the messenger between myself and minerva… I swear I was going for something with this, LOL!
vault 4/15/2025||
I noticed the link in Jeff's post to RX 10 Elements Noise Reduction. The audio in their YouTube presentation was not horrible at all though. Has anybody tried it with some real horrible recording? Like those from a blink mini camera in a room without furniture.
geerlingguy 4/15/2025|
I have, I was going to go for a more extreme example but couldn't find one quickly on their channel.

It's not perfect, by any means, but you can get intelligible speech from a pretty terrible recording at least. Adobe has their AI assist tool too, it works pretty well though I've found it can't isolate a speaker when there are a lot of other people talking nearby.

taf2 4/15/2025||
Giving the final image at 13 seconds to ChatGPT and I wonder if this is pretty close... https://x.com/taf2/status/1912260125278032228
istjohn 4/15/2025|
It's clearly not. In the original screenshot there are 6 files with the prefix "I.2J", but in the GPT version, there are only four.
rasz 4/15/2025||
it hallucinated one more folder
syntaxing 4/15/2025||
Reminds me of the "swirl face".

[1] https://matzjb.se/2015/07/26/deconstructing-swirl-face/

brunosutic 4/15/2025||
I like this Jeff Geerling guy.
ge96 4/15/2025|
he's like THE or was THE raspberry pi guy
marcodiego 4/15/2025|
> For the second attempt, GIMP was used to get a better window selection algorithm with ffmpeg, and with a slight bit more data (more frames extracted), a perfectly legible result

Take that adobe.

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