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Posted by motiejus 4/19/2025

Synology Lost the Plot with Hard Drive Locking Move(www.servethehome.com)
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dmoy 4/22/2025|
I bought a Synology last year and then had to return it because it didn't support two of the enterprise drive model revisions I have (but worked with the others, even one that's the same make).

For the same hardware cost I got a random mATX box that can hold 2.5x more hard drives, a much much beefier CPU, 10x the RAM, and an nvme. And yea it took an hour to set up trueNAS in a docker image, but w/e.

Same exact hard drives working perfectly fine in fedora. If it weren't for hard drive locking I'd have stuck with the Synology box out of laziness.

benoau 4/19/2025||
Their hardware has been dogshit for years TBH, this year's upgrades were to like ~2020 tech and some of these models won't be upgraded again until 2030!

The only parts of Synology I really like are some of their media apps are a very tidy package, I've previously written a compatible server using NodeJS that can use their apps so I think I'll have to pursue that idea further given the vastly superior consumer hardware options that exist for NAS.

joshstrange 4/19/2025||
Do you have some examples of the superior customer hardware options? I currently use 2x12 bay Synology NAS and one of my favorite parts of it is the hardware, the easy access to the hotswap hard drives.

If I could get that form factor, but with a custom NAS software solution, I’d be very interested.

CobaltFire 4/19/2025|||
I run a Sliger 3701 [0] with an ASRock Rack Ryzen motherboard (choose B650D4U or X570D4U to suit) using TrueNAS Scale. This replaced my old FreeNAS Atom C2000 setup that ran for over a decade with zero issues.

Add in a Mikrotik CCR2004-1G-2XS-PCIE [1] for high speed networking. Choose your own HBA.

0: https://www.sliger.com/products/rackmount/storage/cx3701/

1: https://mikrotik.com/product/ccr2004_1g_2xs_pcie

benoau 4/19/2025|||
I don't think you'd get 12x too easily but one recent post here is AMD Hawk Point with 6x 3.5" drives + 5x M.2 drives + OCuLink + up to 128GB of RAM.

https://liliputing.com/?s=nas

joshstrange 4/19/2025||
Thank you for the link, currently my needs are more 3.5” high capacity drives, and less SSD storage (aside for a TB or 2 of cache. I just don’t need SSDs for my media collection, it seems like a waste when I can pick up 24-26+ TB drives for so much cheaper.
lostlogin 4/22/2025||
> Their hardware has been dogshit for years TBH

I think this too harsh. I bought a 1821 a few years back. It takes a generic 10gb card and does what it said on the box. It’s quick and reliable. What am I missing?

GuestFAUniverse 4/22/2025||
Good. Will stop collègues from buying that crap. Managing an aging fleet of those is a PITA. Why bother with a crippled Linux, if a full-blown, real OS is available on better hardware anyway.
thelittleone 4/22/2025|
Full blown OS is a valid option, but installing and maintaining a full blown OS with the equivalent of their ecosystem apps is more complex and time consuming. Some will consider that a PITA and that audience likely isn't bothered by a crippled Linux.
zigmig 4/22/2025||
Running Ubuntu + Docker + Portainer on a NUC10i5FN (32GB RAM, 1TB HP EX900 M.2 SSD) — I’ve got containers for:

AdGuard Home (DNS filtering)

Scrypted (bridging CCTV to Apple Home)

Jellyfin (media streaming)

Immich (photos)

WireGuard (secure VPN)

The 2TB SSD is handling everything pretty well, but I’ve got a 2.5" SSD slot left unused. Thinking about adding a second SSD for either storage or backups, or maybe caching for media.

Any cool apps or tools people would recommend for setups like this? Also, curious about how others are using that extra SSD space in a home lab/NAS setup.

poulpy123 4/22/2025||
It's really the apple for NAS. I'm not concerned since they are anyway to expensive for me but I would be pissed to be obliged to buy their rebranded hard drive
aborsy 4/19/2025||
Can you “btrfs send” snapshots in a raid array in DSM to a Linux server?

If it was a ZFS NAS, I could ZFS send to another system.

I want to get the historical data out to an open portable system.

1oooqooq 4/22/2025|
you really use btrfs send? found it so limiting i assumed only host providers will be using this when btrfs finally have integrated encryption of rest data.

always just rsync/scp things and it is less problematic and faster on my weekend tests.

MaKey 4/22/2025||
How do you transfer snapshots with rsync?
Gazwad 4/23/2025||
I was just about to replace my 2 Drobo units with 2 of 4 bay Synology, my very early Synology single drive NAS is still working so thought I'd go for familiarity.

Read about this BS and thought it's bound to end with Synology branded drives costing much more than other brands as people won't have the choice. QNAP took my order instead.

hkchad 4/22/2025||
I have 3 Synology NAS units with about 80TB of total disk space across the 3. When I replace them I will not be replacing them with Synology, they have lost me as a customer. I switched to Synology after having done the homebuilt NAS for years and just wanted something that works. OSS has come a long way since then so time to go back to what I know and can trust.
aucisson_masque 4/22/2025||
I never understand these kind of short sighted decisions. It takes a long time to build a brand, this could potentially hurt their customer willingness to recommend and even buy their brand.

People aren't stupid, they know that yet they do it.

I believe Amazon became so popular because it treated its customer fairly well until recently, now that they are in extremely dominant position.

But Synology is far from it.

alt227 4/22/2025|
> I never understand these kind of short sighted decisions.

Thats probably because you are not a CEO or a member of a board of directors.

7bit 4/22/2025|
I will never use their plus line, but I care about the company, so this is really sad. They provided security updates over a very long time. Recently they cut automatic updates (not updates at all) for older models to make it inconvenient to run older models. Now this. With that development, I'm not sure that I will buy my next NAS from them.
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