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Posted by pier25 4 days ago

Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared(www.theverge.com)
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squigz 3 days ago|
Hasn't Facebook (and pretty much all major social media platforms) had a clause in their TOS giving them a license to whatever you upload to their services, since forever?
osmsucks 3 days ago|
I forget the exact language, but I think it originally accounted for use of only public media in "marketing and promotional" material, so it didn't include private photos and ML training. This seems to be a step up (or, down, I guess) from that.
gorjusborg 3 days ago||
As commercial AI kills its food source (the internet) we'll see corporations doing desperate things to keep feeding it.
JimDabell 3 days ago||
This article seems false.

> On Friday, TechCrunch reported that Facebook users trying to post something on the Story feature have encountered pop-up messages asking if they’d like to opt into “cloud processing”, which would allow Facebook to “select media from your camera roll and upload it to our cloud on a regular basis”, to generate “ideas like collages, recaps, AI restyling or themes like birthdays or graduations.”

> By allowing this feature, the message continues, users are agreeing to Meta AI terms, which allows their AI to analyze “media and facial features” of those unpublished photos, as well as the date said photos were taken, and the presence of other people or objects in them. You further grant Meta the right to “retain and use” that personal information.

The straightforward explanation is this: they have a feature where it is helpful to group people together. For instance suggesting a photo of you and a friend to be posted on their birthday. In order to make this work, they need to perform facial recognition, so they ask for permission using their standard terms.

Can they train their AI with it? Yes, you are giving them permission to do so. Does the information available tell us that is what they are doing? No, it does not. In fact, a Meta spokesperson said this:

> “These suggestions are opt-in only and only shown to you – unless you decide to share them – and can be turned off at any time,” she continued. “Camera roll media may be used to improve these suggestions, but are not used to improve AI models in this test.”

— https://techcrunch.com/2025/06/27/facebook-is-asking-to-use-...

Could they be lying about this? Sure, I guess. But don’t publish an article saying that they are doing it, when you have no evidence to show that they are doing this and they say they aren’t doing this.

Might they do it in the future? Sure, I guess. But don’t publish an article saying that they are doing it, if the best you have is speculation about what they might do in the future.

Does it make sense for them to do this? Not really. They’ve already got plenty of training data. Will your private photos really move the needle for them? Almost certainly not. Will it be worth the PR fallout? Definitely not.

Should you grant them permission if you don’t want them to train on your private photos? No.

This could have been a decent article if they were clearer about what is fact and what is speculation. But they overreached and said that Facebook is doing something when that is not evident at all. That crosses the line into dishonesty for me.

BiteCode_dev 3 days ago|
This comment should be the top one. I hate FB and I do believe they train their AI using this, but it's a believe, it's speculations.
bee_rider 3 days ago||
> Unfortunately for end users, in tech companies’ rush to stay ahead, it’s not always clear what they’re agreeing to when features like this appear.

At this point, is there really a lack of clarity? I think we all know Facebook is going to interpret any permission to look at anything, as full permission to do whatever the hell they want with it.

There are people who care about this, and people who don’t. Telling ourselves there’s confusion… I think is not going to produce an accurate model of reality.

I think these social media companies are evil. I just don’t see the point in deluding myself into thinking that they are outsmarting everybody. It is a difference of priorities, not smarts.

29athrowaway 3 days ago||
The AR glasses are also about the same... just get a lot of pictures so they can feed their AI.
api 3 days ago||
Not your computer, data not encrypted with keys you control, not your data.
xyst 4 days ago||
Data and people are the commodity in this Ai gold rush. Primary benefactors are big tech.
omnicognate 3 days ago|
Beneficiaries
dzhiurgis 4 days ago||
Wonder if you could ddos it by taking selfies with ai generated faces in background.
exabrial 3 days ago||
Silicon Valley has a problem with one word: consent.

What stinks is the original concept: keeping up with disperate friends, its pretty awesome. I enjoy seeing my friends' kids grow up even though I don't really know them.

anonymars 3 days ago|
Whatever do you mean? WhatsApp asks consent before hoovering up my contact info.

Oh, what's that, I can't actually initiate any conversations without giving that up? Well, that's just the free market, baby. Use something else if you don't like it.

You're telling me that all over the world WhatsApp is basically mandatory to communicate with most people and businesses? Well in this land of freedom, network effects cannot stand up to my Free Market Principles good sir!

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