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Posted by drewr 2 days ago

US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data(text.npr.org)
295 points | 152 commentspage 2
ChrisArchitect 2 days ago|
Earlier:

Hurricane Forecasters Lose Crucial Satellite Data, with Serious Implications

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44402665

maxglute 2 days ago||
What unique weather monitoring does DoD have over civilian capabilities or other govs who has weather satellites?
mlfreeman 2 days ago||
Are the satellites being turned off, or could people with SDRs pick this up directly from space and offer it up for free?
Buttons840 2 days ago||
They're DoD satellites, so encryption is a real possibility.
ethan_smith 2 days ago||
Yes, many weather satellites broadcast in frequencies accessible to amateur SDR setups (137-138MHz for NOAA polar orbiting satellites), though military weather satellites like DMSP use different frequencies and encryption that make civilian reception significantly more challenging.
hypercube33 2 days ago||
saveitforparts actively vlogs about the weather satellite sdr stuff. It's an interesting thing to learn about
DonnyV 2 days ago||
No one agrees to this so why are we accepting this??
galacticaactual 2 days ago|
Because if you want the data go get it yourself.
bix6 2 days ago||
O yes every person should launch their own cube sat. Come on.
stego-tech 2 days ago||
“We shouldn’t keep trusting nation-states for meteorology data. They can and will cut off access if the powers that be demand it, even if it hurts billions of others by doing so.” - Me, circa mid-2010s

“You’re overreacting, nobody would be dumb enough to cut off access to data like that. Stop being alarmist.” - Everyone I have shared that thought with since.

Unfortunately, “I Told You So’s” don’t pay my rent, otherwise I’d have a decent home of my own by now. Here’s hoping ESA or JAXA help fill that gap until the UN can take over (an organization ideally suited for global meteorology tasks).

sorcerer-mar 2 days ago||
People probably reacted poorly to this because it's hard to disambiguate from "we shouldn't keep trusting nation-states for x [because I'm actively working to profit from providing an alternative]" from "[because I'm worried others will dismantle it despite my best efforts to prevent it]"
alexpotato 2 days ago||
Michael Lewis, in the Fifth Risk, has a whole chapter on how during Trump 1 the head of Accuweather was basically trying to shut down free distribution of weather updates from NOAA/National Weather Service.

The reason:

For profit weather companies don't want free government weather updates going out to their potential customers.

PS. Having been on HN for many years and watched the full "disrupt old industries!" cycle, I'm not that surprised this is where we have ended up.

beefnugs 2 days ago||
Its like dump said, they will start nuking the typhoons or whatever that shape is on the radar. Aint nobody got time for analysis
mason_mpls 2 days ago||
so now we get to pay for our weather forecasts twice, once for the military and once for us
burnt-resistor 2 days ago|
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actionfromafar 2 days ago||
https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=44409378&goto=item%3Fi...
IAmGraydon 2 days ago||
That comment is completely accurate and yet has been flagged.
burnt-resistor 2 days ago||
The billionaire's mantra: "Anything free is communism! Gubberment bad!"

This is a sign of a larger effort to replay the fall of the Soviet Union in America: sell off public lands, privatize everything that was public, and charge more money and take on debt for worse services where funds are gifted as dividends to owners rather than providing value to customers because a powerful ruling class demands more money and more power.

pasquinelli 2 days ago|
> "It's not an issue of funding cuts," says Mark Serreze, the director of the National Snow and Ice Data Center, a federally funded research center in Colorado that has relied on the soon-to-be-terminated Defense Department data **to track sea ice since 1979**. "There are cybersecurity concerns. That's what we're being told."

hmmmmmmmmmm

aaron695 2 days ago||
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