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Posted by PaulHoule 15 hours ago

Price of rice in Japan falls below ¥4k per 5kg(www.japantimes.co.jp)
94 points | 150 commentspage 2
lofaszvanitt 10 hours ago|
End of times...
bbarnett 12 hours ago||
Arsenic in rice is on the rise. There is a chart in this article, on how to reduce that.

https://scitechdaily.com/scientists-find-new-way-of-cooking-...

mrob 40 minutes ago||
The same draining step that removes arsenic also removes starch that's necessary for the traditional sticky texture of Japanese rice. You'll end up with rice that's difficult to eat with chopsticks. But it's great for making fried rice, especially if you replace the final absorption step with steaming, because all the grains end up well separated.
numpad0 11 hours ago|||
That method is for long-grain rice used in other parts of Asia, simply unfit for Japanese rice(or vice versa). It's just their highly British form of humor and customary jest.

I'd suggest Brits ban full leaved teas in favor of microwaved teabags while at it.

bbarnett 10 hours ago||
The study is a British joke? What are you talking about?

It seems to work with all rice, just with varying effectiveness.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S004896972...

Why do you think the study is targeting Japan? And why would the Brits joke about it?

Do you think I am? It's just good, general info. Arsenic in rice is problem, and getting worse.

I wonder why you would claim something like this, which literally can save lives, is false?

numpad0 8 hours ago|||
Parboiling and draining rice has been a long-running European joke. Frenches do it as well. It absolutely ruin all short grains. It's a cooking method specifically for long grain rice as used in South Asian cooking, for which steaming would be wrong. And that is the point.
bbarnett 1 hour ago||
Something is missing in our exchange here.

Why would people purposefully ruin their food to make a joke? I sincerely doubt entire nations of people cook their food, purposefully ruining it, then laugh over the fact.

"Oh that rice was terrible! Let's cook it that way again!"

Yet you've attested this twice now, and in a thread discussing how to remove deadly arsenic from rice.

You seem to want to discredit this study. You've claimed the study was false, was made up in jest.

It's not some weird joke.

Whatever you're trying to say, please don't do it by trying to discredit something designed to save lives. It's uncool.

jeffbee 9 hours ago|||
Something about this study is a bit odd. Why does the white rice cooked without rinsing or draining have less arsenic than the raw rice? Is it dissolving then escaping as steam? If so, it seems like the drying step of the experiment screws up the interpretation of the results. If not, conservation of species mass is violated somehow.
bbarnett 9 hours ago||
I looked at the chart, this is interesting.

The only thing I could think of, was that the water used was not entirely absorbed during cooking. So even the UA sample had excess water disposed of at the end.

They talk about the lid being open, but that seems not plausible for the amount shown.

opan 12 hours ago||
>The PBA method involves parboiling the rice in pre-boiled water for five minutes before draining and refreshing the water, then cooking it on a lower heat to absorb all the water.
SudoSuccubus 10 hours ago||
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ianpenney 9 hours ago|
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SoftTalker 8 hours ago||
> the growth hormone rBGH

is prominently labeled as "not used" in any of the milk at my supermarket. Where is all this rBGH milk coming from?

ianpenney 7 hours ago||
> Regulatory status

The use of rBGH is approved in the United States. However, many grocery store chains don’t carry milk from cows treated with rBGH. A United States Department of Agriculture survey conducted in 2014 found that fewer than 1 in 6 cows (15%) were being injected with rBGH.

https://www.cancer.org/cancer/risk-prevention/chemicals/reco...

The correct answer is zero. It’s the difference between opt out and opt in. I don’t and can’t shop at your supermarket.

userbinator 8 hours ago|||
tests show over 90% of sampled U.S. fruits (like apples, cherries) have residues of multiple pesticides

So do non-US fruits, unless it's the "organic" stuff.

techbrovanguard 9 hours ago|||
american exceptionalism at work
ianpenney 9 hours ago||
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tomhow 6 hours ago|||
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zahlman 8 hours ago|||
I would say the downvotes are primarily because you are inferring a political purpose to the OP that isn't in evidence, and railing against it in a way that appears simply off topic.

"So, if I may be editorial as a Canadian: No." is a strange, nonsensical way to respond to a post titled "Price of rice in Japan falls below ¥4k per 5kg".

Complaining about it and sarcastically ascribing ideological positions to downvoters is probably not helping, either.

ianpenney 8 hours ago||
See the top comment on this thread. It’s not nonsensical. It’s refuting the spirit of the conversation so far.

As for pesticides US vs Canada: Chlorpyrifos Neonicotinoids Ractopamine

All being phased out or banned up north. And much more restricted in EU/Internationally. While US use seems to me to be rampant.

Japanese rice costs more _because it is better_. And especially because it’s known by laypersons to be better. If any of the commenters here had any authority because perhaps they could claim they’ve spent a bunch of time in Japan like I have? I’d respect that.

And indeed, we Canadians are subject to politics about our supply management on dairy and poultry. It’s not just there to protect business. It’s there to protect health as far as my contemporaries are concerned.