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Posted by skeptrune 4 hours ago

The Email Startup Graveyard: Why 80%+ of Email Companies Fail(forwardemail.net)
79 points | 23 comments
sethammons 3 hours ago|
I was engineer 12 at SendGrid and left after IPO and subsequent acquisition by Twilio. Being infrastructure and the backing many email marketing companies, we did really well. Kind of like selling shovels in the gold rush. We struggled more on the product front breaking into the much larger marketing space. Learned a lot there leading and scaling teams and scaling the email infrastructure to support over 8 billion daily sends.
zaik 1 hour ago|
> email marketing companies

This means spammers, right?

colechristensen 49 minutes ago|||
No, in order for their traffic to not get blackholed, places like sendgrid have to follow the rules and make their customers follow the rules. The marketing emails they send will be somewhere between things people actually want to see and mildly annoying. There are plenty of things I subscribe to which are marketing emails I want to see.
BiteCode_dev 37 minutes ago||
"mildly annoying"

That's another name for spam.

thorncorona 22 minutes ago||
marketing emails are mildly annoying until you want to buy something and they become useful for the 20% coupon
croisillon 6 minutes ago||
I fell in love wirh Zenbe back in 2009 and i’m still angry at Facebook for acquishutting them down in 2010
ajjenkins 3 hours ago||
I’m surprised Hey isn’t mentioned. That’s the only example I know of someone recently trying to reinvent email. Maybe it wasn’t included because it’s part of Basecamp and not its own company. But I think it’s important to discuss if your argument is that “no one has successfully reinvented email”.
tristan957 52 minutes ago|
By reinvent are you referring to UX? Fastmail is reinventing email through superior open protocols.
BiteCode_dev 36 minutes ago||
UX is what made the difference between the first iPhone and a palm.
chazeon 11 minutes ago||
Actually recent email innovation I enjoyed is Mimestream, the macOS native client for Gmail. Apple’s smart inbox is half baked but better than nothing. Cloudflare now also has a pretty good email forwarding service.
laborcontract 2 hours ago||
My first thought was wow - 20% of email startups succeed? That’s actually pretty good.
chevman 3 hours ago||
What's left to conquer in email land?

Most of the large marketing ecommerce/enterprise market was captured via ExactTarget/Salesforce, Oracle/Responsys/Eloqua, IBM/SilverPop/Acoustic, Adobe/Neolane/Marketo by the mid 2010's.

SendGrid/Twilio was another a few years later, Amazon SES is ok, then you have some of the smaller market players (MailChimp, Constant Contact, etc).

Hard to scale/grow a startup in any real way when there are so many fairly well entrenched solutions across industries and company sizes.

muratsu 2 hours ago||
Mailbox raising 6M, having a 100M exit and getting called out failure is crazy
runako 2 hours ago|
Rapportive listed at having raised $120k for a $15m exit also stands out.
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