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Posted by PaulHoule 7/1/2025

Effectiveness of trees in reducing temperature, outdoor heat exposure in Vegas(iopscience.iop.org)
181 points | 147 commentspage 3
jgord 7/2/2025|
any group strategy to push back against the overuse of whole-page captchas ?

Do we all need to run an AI browser plugin now that auto-fills cloudflare captchas ?

matthewfcarlson 7/1/2025|
Surprise surprise, vegetation is way better than concrete when it comes to being comfortable in a city
pvorb 7/1/2025||
Not building your city in the desert is also a good idea when it comes to being a comfortable city.
davidw 7/1/2025|||
It costs less to cool than to heat, by and large. And deserts have a lot of sunshine that can be converted into electricity for cooling...
pvorb 7/1/2025||
But lack of water will become a huge problem when your city is growing that fast in a heating climate.

Edit: And cooling only works inside buildings or cars. Part of a comfortable city is being able to go outside and have a social life outside of a casino.

margalabargala 7/1/2025|||
Municipal uses like drinking, showering, and watering ornamental plants is a tiny pct of desert water use. Most of it is crop irrigation, because if you can will water into existence then crops grow great in sunny deserts.

If the US' alfalfa exports to Saudi Arabia went down by 10%, we would never have a municipal water shortage in the American West in the next century.

Dig1t 7/2/2025||||
Lack of water is a political problem. We have vast oceans which can be desalinated. Israel gets 85% of its water from desalination, they have gone from water shortages to having a water surplus.

We pump oil via pipelines vast distances, we can do the same with water.

We have virtually unlimited energy locked in Uranium which could power desalination plants, or heck you could power them with solar.

There’s plenty of water for the whole planet. There’s also plenty of clean energy (see nuclear and solar point earlier). But tapping these resources requires a functional government or at least a bureaucracy willing to allow companies to build.

SpicyUme 7/1/2025||||
There are people pushing for more shade in cities as an adaptation for a warming world. There is some crossover with the push for a reduction in cars and generally reducing the footprint of streets. Looking at old cities in hot climates I can see how this could make sense.

For Las Vegas, Cottonwoods are native and grow pretty quickly. Like many poplars they were used to grow shelterbelts.

AnimalMuppet 7/1/2025|||
I don't think anybody ever moved to Vegas expecting to be able to have a street life.
helpfulclippy 7/1/2025||
I used to hang out with my friends and neighbors outside all the time in Las Vegas.

...just not so much in May-August.

bigd34lh3r3 7/2/2025||
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toast0 7/2/2025|||
That's a great idea, but hard for the city of Las Vegas to implement. Clark County doesn't have any ability to build a city not in a desert either. The state of Nevada doesn't have much of anywhere to put a non-desert city either.

Very few municipalities are willing to deny new residents, either. It wouldn't be anywhere on my list of viable places to live, but population growth in the Las Vegas metro area has been consistently large since 1910 until recently (only 10% growth from 2010 to 2020). The municipalities should likely invest in livability and comfort where possible.