Posted by theandrewbailey 7/2/2025
> To download W3C's editor/browser Amaya, [click here].
This gives you an option, where multiple options may be available.
> To download Amaya, go to the [Amaya Website] and get the necessary software.
This is even better, as 'click here' assumes the input device.
> Get [Amaya]!
Whilst being simpler, it does not make clear that the action is optional.
Whether I click something may require some additional information around the link, for example:
> To download W3C's free editor/browser Amaya, go to the [Amaya Website] and select the latest version on the home page.
Now I know that it's free, and I have instructions to carry out to find what I'm looking for.
See also https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG22/Understanding/link-purpose-in-..., also keeping in mind that since June, the underlying WCAG guideline is a EU-wide legal requirement for company websites.
e.g. from the WCAG examples you link to:
> An account registration page requires successful completion of a [Turing test](https://www.w3.org/TR/turingtest/) before the registration form can be accessed.
I think this is a UX problem with screen readers, and actually probably something LLMs might massively help with. If I was designing something for screen readers, I would probably have interactive elements within a context window, i.e.:
<context>To download W3C's free editor/browser Amaya, go to the <a href="..">Amaya Website</a> and select the latest version on the home page.</context>
> See also https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG22/Understanding/link-purpose-in-... , also keeping in mind that since June, the underlying WCAG guideline is a EU-wide legal requirement for company websites.
On this page itself, within the box "Success Criterion (SC)" the listener would hear "purpose of each link", "programmatically determined link context", "ambiguous to users in general". The last one is, well, ambiguous to users in general. Even as a sighted person, without selecting it, I wouldn't know what it is actually going to link to.
I would say that the web is generally actively hostile towards screen readers, and not because of a lack of WCAG adoption. You have text in images (not just static, but also GIFs), JS heavy components, delayed loading, dependant interactions (such as captchas, navigation drop downs, etc), infinite scrolling - the list just goes on. The web is primary a highly visual space and likely will remain so.
I don't think the EU's accessibility act is actually enforceable [1]. Unlike cookies, some of the changes required are massive, to the point where it may not even be worth existing in the EU market if it's enforced.
> Incorporating captions into video content, as well as providing audio descriptions and transcripts
Even proving you are compliant is a lot of cost, which includes audits and training staff. You can always trust the EU to regulate itself out of being competitive.
[1] https://www.wcag.com/compliance/european-accessibility-act/
You can do:
• [Download X] - immediate download link.
• [Learn more about X] - go to webpage, discover other interactions there
• [Register to download X] - if registration required
Short and concise copy is generally better, extra information rarely makes content better.
> You can download the Amaya Browser from [Amaya’s download page]
It’s both explicit for sighted reader and screen readers too.
Yes there’s some duplicated words. But the point of that paragraph isn’t to be artistic, it’s to be informative. You can save the creative word play for your regular paragraphs.
You can [get the Amaya Browser] from the download pageI wonder how successful the screen reader experience is for using the web. Without checking URLs, how can they be sure for example they don't enter this credit card details on http://bank.xyz/scam_page , rather than https://bank.com ?
Or how do they know whether the download page automatically downloads the file whilst they are on it?
I can only imagine that using the web is extremely difficult.
"click here" should be a direct link to the latest version. You click on it, it should download the latest version.
Nobody appreciates being talked down to with "click here" as if they can't figure out how to follow a link.
ex.
To download W3C's editor/browser Amaya, [click here].
[Download Amaya]
[Click here] to get Amaya for Windows
All collapse into something singular and sensible like [Download Amaya installer for Windows here] as an action inside the action section.
I don't know. I should probably put on a sleeping mask and navigate the web via a screen reader one of these days to really experience how things are.
> I don't know. I should probably put on a sleeping mask and navigate the web via a screen reader one of these days to really experience how things are. The difference is that it wouldn't be like experiencing it through a screen reader, it'd be like experiencing it with a screen reader that you can't use and will never be motivated enough to learn. Some blind people are known to listen to code in "reading speed" which is pretty incredible.
You'd be like standing on skis for the first time, or using Vim