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Posted by baylearn 7/5/2025

Problems the AI industry is not addressing adequately(www.thealgorithmicbridge.com)
220 points | 233 commentspage 3
insane_dreamer 7/6/2025|
> A disturbing amount of effort goes into making AI tools engaging rather than useful or productive. I don't think this is an intentional design decision.

I think it absolutely is intentional. The overt flattery of LLMs is designed to keep you coming back because everyone wants to hear how smart they are.

Imnimo 7/5/2025||
I can at least understand "I am going to a different AGI company because I think they are on a better track" but I cannot grap " I am leaving this AGI company to work on some narrow AI application but I still totally believe AGI is right around the corner"
4ndrewl 7/5/2025||
No-one authentically believes LLMs with whatever go-faster stripes are a path to AGI do they?
insane_dreamer 7/6/2025||
Since no one has any idea of how to achieve AGI or the process to get there, I'm skeptical of any claims as to how soon we might arrive.
bsenftner 7/5/2025||
Maybe I'm too jaded, I expect all this nonsense. It's human beings doing all this, after all. We ain't the most mature crowd...
lizknope 7/5/2025|
I never had any trust in the AI industry in the first place so there was no trust to lose.
bsenftner 7/5/2025||
Take it further, this entire civilization is an integrity void.
lightbulbish 7/5/2025||
Thanks for the read. I think it's a highly relevant article, especially around the moral issues of making addictive products. As a normal person in the Swedish society I feel social media, shorts and reels in particular, has an addictive grip on many in my vicinity.

And as a developer I can see similar patterns with AI prompts: prompt, wait, win/lose, re-prompt. It is alluring and it certainly feels.. rewarding when you get it right.

1) I have been curious as to why so few people in Silicon Valley seems to be concerned with, even talking about, the good of the products. The good of the company they join. Could someone in the industry enlighten me, what are the conversations in SV around this issue? Do people care if they make an addictive product which seems to impact people's lives negatively? Do the VCs?

2) I appreciate the author's efforts in creating conversation around this. What are ways one could try to help the efforts? While I have no online following, I feel rather doomy and gloomy about AI pushing more addictive usage patterns out in to the world, and would like to help if there is something suitable I could do.

ninetyninenine 7/5/2025||
>If they truly believed we’re at most five years from world-transforming AI, they wouldn’t be switching jobs, no matter how large the pay bump (they’re already affluent).

What ridiculous logic is this? TO base the entire premise that AGI is not imminent based on job switching? How about basing it on something more concrete.

How do people come up with such shakey foundations to support their conclusions? It's obvious. They come up with the conclusion first then they find whatever they can to support it. Unfortunately if dubious logic is all that's available then that's what they will say.

NickNaraghi 7/5/2025||
Point 1. could just as easily be explained by all of the labs being very close, and wanting to jump ship to one that is closer, or that gives you a better deal.
sumeno 7/5/2025||
> Right before “making tons of money to redistribute to all of humanity through AGI,” there’s another step, which is making tons of money.

I've got some bad news for the author if they think AGI will be used to benefit all of humanity instead of the handful of billionaires that will control it.

rvz 7/5/2025|
Are we finally realizing that the term "AGI" is not only hijacked to become meaningless, but achieving it has always been nothing but a complete scam as I was saying before? [0]

If you were in a "pioneering" AI lab that claims to be in the lead in achieving "AGI", why move to another lab that is behind other than offering $10M a year.

Snap out of the "AGI" BS.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37438154

frde_me 7/5/2025||
I don't know, companies investing in AI in the goal of AGI is now allowing me to effortlessly automate a whole suite of small tasks that weren't feasible before. (after all I pinged a bot on slack using my phone to add a field to an API, and then got a pull request in a couple of minutes that did exactly that)

Maybe it's a scam for the people investing in the company with the hopes of getting an infinite return on their investments, but it's been a net positive for humans as a whole.

bdhcuidbebe 7/5/2025|||
We know they hijacked AGI the same way they hijacked AI some years ago.
returnInfinity 7/5/2025||
Soon they will hijack ASI, then we will need a new word again.
sys_64738 7/5/2025||
I don't pay too close attention to AI as it always felt like man behind the curtain syndrome. But where did this "AGI" term even come from? The original term AI is meant to be AGI so when did "AI" get bastardized into what abomination it is meant to refer to now.
SoftTalker 7/5/2025|||
See the history of Tesla and "full self-driving" for the explanation. In short: for sales.
eMPee584 7/5/2025|||
capitalism all the way down..
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