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Posted by tosh 8/30/2025

You Have to Feel It(mitchellh.com)
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ChrisMarshallNY 8/30/2025|
Good thought, but corporations don't care, and a whole lot of folks that play the corporate game won't, either. Money will still be made. Careers will still be advanced.

It think it was Theodore Sturgeon that said "90% of everything is crap."

For myself, I enjoy what I do. I write software that I want to use, in a way that makes me feel good.

I have no illusions that I would be allowed to work like this, if I were still in the workforce, though.

spongebobstoes 8/31/2025|
there are pockets even in the corporate world where people are able to feel what they are doing

in my experience, those times have been with the most talented and productive people. perhaps they don't need the crutch of process

it is rare, and does not last forever. as teams scale up, this is gradually lost. regression to the mean?

leading with feeling is vulnerable. it can be very rewarding when met with like or very damaging when crushed under the corporate wheel

bonoboTP 8/31/2025||
It's the same in other aspects of life too. Like where the cool bars are with the cool people. Over time it gets popular, overrun with average people and tourists. Then the cool people move their cool parties to some new, more obscure place and the cycle repeats. Same with online platforms.

The people in those pockets will have to use their discernment to figure out where the next pocket is located. But it can't be something that everyone can easily do.

temp0826 8/30/2025||
Feels like a linkedin post
dkdcio 8/30/2025||
feels like a self-help book in the tiktok era
ivape 8/30/2025||
Feels like someone is still trying to copy and re-sell Steve Jobs. No one else gets what it takes maaaan.
PeterStuer 8/31/2025||
Yes, and no.

Yes in the sense Kano refered to as 'delight' [1]. An unexpected or tacit feeling of quality in an interaction with a product.

No, because for whatever reason we sadly have become prone to spurious and unbridled emotion, making mountains out of molehills at the slightest friction. I sometimes feel what now passes as acceptable is what used to be borderline bipolar disorders.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kano_model

PaulHoule 8/30/2025||
I dunno. A good demo is all about the feeling it gives. One thing I got out of my adventures in startup land is how to go up on stage and demo some software that barely works and make it look like a million bucks.

At the last hackathon I went to I was sitting in the audience at the presentation at the end with one teammate while the other one was upstairs pounding away at last minute revisions. We were scheduled last but I still had to make excuses to the organizers.

He showed up with something that basically worked but I kept cool under pressure, made sure I didn't commit to anything until I was sure about it, and used good showmanship. We were all shocked when we won the 'player's choice' award. Mind you, it helped that he was experienced at writing platformers in Unity and the other student could draw, but thanks to my showmanship people saw everything that didn't worked and didn't notice the bugs and people were left with the impression that 'wow that looked like a polished game' whereas the main author said 'I don't think I'd want to play it' afterwards. My continuous push towards a 'minimum viable product' combined with their push to make something that looked polish really helped that showmanship work.

throwaway314155 8/30/2025|
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atak1 8/30/2025||
I love this point. It's also one of the hardest things to do as a product person if you're not the typical user.

It's hard to feel the feelings of many types of users.

shermantanktop 8/30/2025|
That difficulty is quite obvious, which is why ineffective product people only seem have a single customer in mind: themselves. They slip in conversation easily to “I” language without realizing it.

Devs who work on customer-reported tickets end up knowing a lot more about customer needs than some of the pms I have worked with.

nextworddev 8/30/2025||
Think most people are too numb / desensitized to feel anything (which is by design)
rglover 8/30/2025||
Unfortunately, the tech industry has completely lost touch with anything resembling this. It's a cold machine now; I'd call it soulless but I think that gives it too much animation.
mattgreenrocks 8/31/2025||
Really, I think we’re all talking around some notion of beauty here. Not in the sense of personal vanity, but more of a sense of internal cohesiveness.

Also, the feeling he’s referring to is what sold me on Ghostty. It was clear that he’d thought quite a bit about good defaults. Performance is great without having to tweak anything. In a way, I love that this sort of thing cannot be qualified, because it means that it cannot be commoditized or democratized. It either connects with someone, or it doesn’t.

underdeserver 8/30/2025||
I feel it when using Ghostty. So nice.
k__ 8/31/2025|
As a neuro divergent person, I usually only feel relieved when I can mark a task as complete.

Doing my taxes felt the same as getting a degree and publishing a book.

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