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Posted by wonger_ 8/31/2025

My phone is an ereader now(www.davepagurek.com)
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cousin_it 8/31/2025|
I've wished for years that there would be an actual e-ink only laptop. Or (even better) an aftermarket e-ink screen for my current laptop, because I'm quite happy with the rest of the machine.
Elfener 8/31/2025||
Somewhat recently Lenovo had the experimental laptop "ThinkBook Plus Gen 4": https://psref.lenovo.com/WDProduct/ThinkBook/ThinkBook_Plus_...

It featured a netvertible design that had a regular screen on one side and an e-ink on the other. I thought that was a pretty good idea, though this laptop had some questionable decisions, like only usb-c as IO.

VoidWhisperer 8/31/2025|||
Are there any e-ink displays with a reasonable enough refresh rate that aren't exorbitantly expensive? I know atleast as of a few years ago that was one of the issues that would've impeded an e-ink only laptop
dvdkon 8/31/2025|||
I feel like e-ink displays/EPDs are widely used, but underexplored, by major manufacturers at least. The person behind the Modos project already linked by someone else has put a lot of effort into pushing EPDs to their limits and put together the best technical documentation for EPDs that I know of: https://github.com/Modos-Labs/Glider

EDIT: Here's an older demo of theirs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XduK7wn9SE4

Gys 8/31/2025|||
From what I read some time ago, e-ink displays use almost as much energy as normal displays if the contents change all the time. The one benefit of e-ink is the ability to show static content without using energy.
VoidWhisperer 8/31/2025||
That is probably another reason that e-ink laptops haven't really become a thing then - practically any use besides maybe basic web browsing and emails would require a decent refresh rate to be reasonable, removing the benefit of using e-ink over the normal display
Xmd5a 8/31/2025||
I have a Hisense A5 cc pro, a color eink android smartphone. The refresh rate is good enough to watch a video
Moru 8/31/2025||
How is the battery usage during the high refresh rate?
xelxebar 8/31/2025||
You might be interested in this:

https://www.crowdsupply.com/modos-tech/modos-paper-monitor

It's just a dev kit run, but I've got high hopes for the whole Modos project.

A_Duck 8/31/2025||
e-Ink seems like the perfect solution to : how do I make my phone functional for when I need to use it, but unpleasant enough I don’t want to use it

At the moment I have my iphone set to black-and-white but still find myself idly browsing

I think I’ll buy this phone

colingauvin 8/31/2025|
I can confirm that this phone is perfect for it. Everything is there and usable if you truly need it, but I cannot wait to put the phone back in my pocket because of unpleasant it is to use.
locusofself 8/31/2025||
I could probably live without iMessage (though I wouldn't love it), but the one thing I really cannot live without is a great camera. My child is still young, my wife and I are still enjoying ourselves (when we have time), and I really do cherish the photos. I know I could get a separate camera, but it's not the as being able to snap photos spontaneously.

What I really want is a super reliable way to block social media from my iPhone, only allowing a short window per day.

I use "Freedom", but it doesn't reliably block things, and I end up cheating.

CharlesW 8/31/2025||
Screen Time can work well for this. Block both apps and websites (the "Social" category makes this straightforward), then ask your gatekeeper tp "Lock Screen Time Settings" on your phone and keep the PIN to themselves.
const_cast 8/31/2025||
I "solved" this by using a black and white screen always and just checking social media on a web browser on my computer whenever I feel like it - usually once a month or so. Its great because I can turn off the black and white for pictures.

This isn't a real solution because you still have to take deliverate action and you're still just trusting your own behaviors. But, it's a great middle ground.

For social media - you don't actually need the apps. Like, at all. They work just fine in a browser and they can't send you notifications that way. So just delete them altogether.

amilios 9/1/2025||
Personally I've downgraded my phone intentionally, from an iPhone 14 Pro to an iPhone SE 2020 (the previous iPhone I had). It's slow, it overheats, the battery is short. But that's what I want -- the friction makes me really consider every use of the phone, and the occasional slowdowns frustrate me just enough to reconsider taking it out of my pocket for everything. It kind of "works" for me. Might get a battery pack though hahah
jokethrowaway 8/31/2025||
We really need better software for this type of phone to take off.

The technology is needed to avoid short video / social media addiction but a working map app is a must.

owenversteeg 8/31/2025||
The device in the article is $400 (and obviously requires migrating to a new phone.) Don't get me wrong, it does seem like a decent solution - but for those looking for a lower friction (or lower cost) way to use your phone less, this is my system, which works very well: 1) lock away your phone in a separate box or room away from where you are, 2) make the phone as unappealing as possible (grayscale, disable animations, don't upgrade models, fill up storage so it's very slow), 3) increase friction on the device itself; uninstall any interesting apps and use "one sec" to block stuff in the browser.

With these interventions I went from using my phone for hours a day to using it (most days) only when necessary, and some days not at all. Feels very liberating!

As far as reading goes, I switched back to physical books.

floundy 8/31/2025|
Since these E-Ink phones all suck in specific ways or have uncertain compatibility with US cell carriers I carry 2 devices, my Android smartphone (which I've dumbed down in a similar way to you) and a Boox Palma 2 (which I use for reading articles and books).

I pretty much use my Android in grayscale only for texting/2FA, phone calls, and occasionally email. I entirely disabled the web browser. If a restaurant has QR code menus I don't care anymore, I'll just leave. If I'm "bored" I'll pull out my Palma and get some reading in.

owenversteeg 9/1/2025||
That's a nice combo. Disabling the web browser is a good idea, thanks :)
octoberfranklin 8/31/2025||
Can you get root on this thing?

Can I recompile all (or at least most, modulo firmware blobs) of the software running on it?

Obviously I'm not expecting Pixel/GrapheneOS levels of openness. But I'm hoping it's not Samsung-level icky.

jokoon 8/31/2025||
1. I type faster with a touchscreen because I use the swipe finger thing, so a physical keyboard is not really that interesting

2. I doubt that keyboard will last forever, it will probably get quite dirty or tired.

3. I don't think an ink screen saves that much power.

4. I just have a cheap smartphone without 4G internet, 2 euros/months, 50MB in case I need to read some email. That way I will not stay on my phone for long.

5. I watch movies and shows on my phone, actually.

6. Physical books feel better, honestly.

Although I can find it useful to write code with it, but again, apps are not tailored to write code, the toolchains are not made for it.

StevenNunez 9/5/2025||
I've been using a BigMe HiBreak pro and it's pretty good! I have had issues with the usb port but after removing some cruft I really like it. Easy on the eyes, full android and I can watch videos in a pinch.

I find it makes it easier to do something else with my free time.

jeeezus 8/31/2025|
Ditch the keyboard and price it like a kindle and I'm sold.
pjerem 8/31/2025||
You may try to import Hisense e-ink phones from china.

They can be flashed with Lineage OS and have a standard smartphone form factor but with an e-ink screen.

Pay attention that they also exists with color eink screen and that those versions are more expensive.

Seattle3503 8/31/2025||
Is there a guide you followed?
ipcress_file 8/31/2025||
Check out the Mudita Kompakt.*

*not priced like a Kindle :)

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