Posted by tosh 9/1/2025
It was an odd format. The class outwardly presented itself as a seminar class where you just read and discuss AI papers. Several of the papers involved doing mean things to ferrets. But really it was a writing/communication class with Winston giving you life advice. I remember one of his teachings was how to build and maintain your network (email them ~twice a year). And also before a big lecture you can warm up your voice by making a barking noise. He also brought donuts to most every class. I miss you professor Winston.
But there were also great AI papers, and meta advice on reading them efficiently. (I don't remember any crimes against ferrets, but presumably the reading list changed over time)
I appreciated that class, and it's only grown on me over time. Another line that really stuck with me was something like "forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit" (Which I remembered as "Perhaps we will look back on even this with fondness") It's so easy to undervalue amazing things when they are happening to you. I was really convinced that I was appreciating it, even more than many around me. But I still look back and think I could have soaked it in, even more.
One of the things I treasured the most was that Professor Winston overtly subscribed to the "make topics crystal clear and broadly accessible" school of technical communication. He would contrast this against the "make things incomprehensible so everyone thinks you're brilliant" school of thought. I am eternally grateful someone biased me early in life towards the former, not just when I'm speaking but when I'm choosing what to read and who to listen to.
I've also wondered lately what he would think about the current LLM wave. I'm sure he would have had a characteristically clear and profound take. I feel the world is losing out not having his voice during the current moment.
You quoted it correctly. It's from The Aeneid, and your translation is basically correct.
But regarding a particular person, I suppose that friends and family members don't want to be reading random Internet commenters' speculation about that person's health and passing.
Maybe bring up the general problem in an HN post, with a link to an informative article?
Just via the Golden Rule, I would be happy if someone used my own bad example (I have the same condition that I attribute to Prof. Winston) to make the argument personal, if that motivated someone to pick up the apple instead. We lose too many years to high blood pressure, obesity, high glucose, neuropathy, etc., etc., to shut up about the donuts.
"I can testify that is downstream of too many donuts."
The above statement - specifically saying you TESTIFY - does not sound like speculation; it sounds like you are speaking as a matter of fact.
I fail to see what if anything, positive you thought would come from that post? You're in a thread where people are mostly positively remembering someone they respected and you essentially jumped in and said "yeah but the guy killed himself with his eating".... like you really think that's a good idea?
You might think you're doing some greater good - but there is a time and a place for everything - the message you're trying to send isn't going to land in this sort of environment, it's just going to piss people off and have you appear to be disrespectful.
Before: http://people.csail.mit.edu/phw/pensees/welcomethen.jpg
After: https://people.csail.mit.edu/phw/pensees/welcomenow.jpg
"I learned to eat and drink veeeeeery slowly at the table meant for eating, not in front of my computer screen. I used to cram in a day's worth of calories in a few minutes, before my body had any idea I was eating anything, which experts say takes 20 minutes."
https://people.csail.mit.edu/phw/index.html
His description of the "General Patton Diet" is no longer on his website but may be archived somewhere.
Here is a copy that I made when it appeared on his MIT webpages:
The General Patton diet
http://people.csail.mit.edu/phw/favorites.html
Fall 2012, first day of class, 255 lbs
Fall 2013, first day of class, 195 lbs
My doctor said I had three choices: take blood pressure medication, lose weight, or drop dead. My wife said I had turned into a fat blob. After thinking about all that for a couple of years, I decided to lose weight.
When I had tried to lose weight before, nothing worked. But I had never tried everything all at once. Many years ago, I watched “Patton,” and I think there was a scene in which he said with pride that he was attacking in all directions at once. So I decided to try what I call the General Patton diet, attacking in all directions at once.
First, I quit drinking cream in my coffee. I drink a lot of coffee, and I used to drink it with a lot of cream, so with that, I cut back 400-500 calories per day. Black coffee tasted terrible for a week, but I got used to it, and now the idea of cream in my coffee seems disgusting.
Then, I started exercising, almost daily—just fast walking and a little jogging at first, but then, around day 80, just jogging. Another 400-600 calories accounted for in my endorphin-generating exercise.
So, exercise and a change in the way I drink coffee constituted a 1000 calorie swing every day.
Then, I learned to eat and drink veeeeeery slowly at the table meant for eating, not in front of my computer screen. I used to cram in a day's worth of calories in a few minutes, before my body had any idea I was eating anything, which experts say takes 20 minutes.
Then, I substitute fruit for hypoglycemic foods that take blood sugar on a roller coaster ride. I used to get so hungry by 5 pm I could eat my own hand. Now I eat apples instead of junk and the 5 pm problem has gone away.
Then, the screwier things. Being interested in why we excel as a species, I note that fire is part of the explanation. Cooked food is partially digested before it goes in our mouth, so we can march more calories into our bodies in less time. That used to be a good thing, but isn't now, so I substitute raw fruits and vegetables for some of the cooked stuff I used to eat.
Then, I lift dumbbells while my coffee is brewing, which means I exercise at least five times a day, albeit briefly. It doesn't consume a lot of calories, but it seems to keep my appetite down and maybe keeps my metabolism up.
Then, I keep repeating to myself two quotes: from my friend Jay Keyser: “food is an addiction;” from Thomas Jefferson: “no man ever regretted eating too little.” Playing these quotes in my mind, I push away quite a lot of after-I-am-actually-satisfied food.
So I attack in all directions at once.
Of course what worked for one person doesn't work for another, and you really must talk to your doctor about whether what you are thinking of doing to lose weight is right for you.
Anyway, all this happened over the summer, so many of my friends had not seen me for a while, but strangely few asked me if I had lost weight. I finally figured out why when I broached the subject with a friend, Scott Vanderhoof, from whom I buy my hardware, who himself had once lost a lot of weight.
“Scott,” I said, “haven't you noticed that I have lost weight?”
“On purpose?”
“Yes, of course,” I said.
Then, with a great sigh of relief, he explained that he hadn't said anything because he thought I must have contracted something terrible to lose 60 pounds in 100 days.
25 September 2013 Epilog
Now, Registration Day, 2014, has rolled and my weight is the same as a year ago.
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Any time I see a wall of text on a presentation, I know I can probably tune out and not miss much.
If the slide deck is meant to be something that can be shared around and make sense without you, it needs to have a lot of text on the slides. Even putting it in the speaker notes doesn’t work.
So make sure you know your audience and the context (also important presentation advice)
If you have to serve both uses, text goes on the slides. If you’re primarily speaking then just include the speaker notes and hope it makes sense. If the slides will be shared primarily, text goes on the slides and you just deal with it while presenting.
Slide decks have a "NOTES" view.
Put pretty pictures in the REAL view.
Share it and they will read the NOTES view.
Duh.
Then isn't that just a document? Why use a slide deck?
https://web.archive.org/web/20161223041152/https://idlewords...
https://boringtechnology.club/
Those talks don’t have too much text on slides, yet they can still be shared as text by including the speaker’s script aligned with each slide. They also have online video versions for comparison.
When I do low-text slides anyway, sometimes I've used the "notes" field of the presentation program to write out complete text of a version of the speech, for my eyes only. Then I don't read the notes while presenting, but I've gone through that writing exercise, to think through the content and presentation more rigorously than is necessary to slap some headings on slides.
I'd rather the talk was interesting and entertaining for the audience than present a slide deck of bullet points
I don't think this is good advice. What you should actually do is not just read out the slide. The slide isn't your autocue.
It's fine to have text on a slide if you are talking about that text. For example you might be analysing some code, or writing techniques or whatever.
Honestly it's really obvious if you've ever watched any presentations in your life... but people still do it because it feels a lot easier.
When giving a talk, your slides are not "the show." YOU are the show.
But also the storyteller and also the slides.
Every TED speaker is coached to start with a personal story.
How to Speak [video] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39670484 - March 2024 (2 comments)
How to Speak - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31489765 - May 2022 (2 comments)
How to Speak (MIT OCW) [video] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30046076 - Jan 2022 (1 comment)
How to speak (2018) [video] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23878328 - July 2020 (5 comments)
How to Speak by Patrick Winston - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23570443 - June 2020 (1 comment)
How to Speak (2018) [video] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22848034 - April 2020 (43 comments)
Also related:
Patrick Winston has died - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20482768 - July 2019 (81 comments)
https://courses.csail.mit.edu/6.803/index.html - The supplementary reading list for this class looks interesting.
https://www.amazon.com/Make-Clear-Speak-Persuade-Inform/dp/0... - Patrick co-authored a book on communication based on said class.
Ah, the good old days.
Every time I am sitting in the audience of a talk where someone uses overcrowded PowerPoint slides with small fonts and goes through tables of numbers that no-one in the audience can read, mumbling quietly or rushing nervously through their material, long having lost most of the audience, I feel like sending the presenters the link to this timeless masterpiece (happens at least a few dozen times per year).
It has also made me a better teacher in the lecture hall, and appreciate using chalk more, and slides less.
This clip is worth watching again every couple of years, which I do, out of enjoyment and to refresh my memory (reminds me I still need to procure some cool props for my upcoming AI1 lecture in October...).
https://www.amazon.com/Make-Clear-Speak-Persuade-Inform/dp/0...
Phenomenal talk.
And a couple more pearls from Prof. Winston here as well. https://muratbuffalo.blogspot.com/search?q=winston
If I'm going to listen a someone speak without me being able to respond/interact/have a conversation with them, it can be recorded and I can watch it whenever is convenient for me.
I feel this way with work presentations too -- record them, and let me watch them anytime. Don't make me sit and listen to someone (or a group of people) give a lecture, so that I have to follow along live.
If I'm watching a recording, there's a far greater chance that I'll actually absorb the content, as a) it'll be during a time that works for me, not some arbitrary scheduled time that may or may not interrupt other things that are distracting me from the presentation, b) I'll be able to rewind if -- no, when -- I zone out for a minute, and c) I can skip/speed up the parts that aren't as relevant to me.
I wish we would move away from these live lectures/presentations, and more to async/recorded sessions.
(As a bonus, it also makes the speaking/presenting side easier, as it can be edited, if desired.)
Agreed. The company I work at(major scheduling company starts with a C) uses Loom a lot and it made 3 months of onboarding training much less painful.
I think theres value to being together in a room. Even if its perceived one-way communication.
But most university professors (hopefully) engage with students, allow discussion/questions, and offer assistance, even if outside of class.
But if professors never speak to students, and students aren’t allowed to engage with each other, then yes, there is (almost) zero reason to have everyone sitting in the room together.
And if professors are doing this over VC, again with zero opportunity to engage with the professor/other students, then send out recordings/other async forms of instruction.