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Posted by rachofsunshine 9/2/2025

You don't want to hire "the best engineers"(www.otherbranch.com)
393 points | 319 commentspage 7
declan_roberts 9/2/2025|
I haven't read an article this on-point in a long time. As someone comfortably working remotely at BIGTECH it's actually really frustrating.

OK you have a 60% pay cut and forced relocation back to the Bay Area. Let's jump right into the conversation about how you're going to make up for that to attract talent. Don't tell me it's a virtue because I'm not stupid and you're not stupid.

phendrenad2 9/2/2025||
I appreciate where the author is coming from, but I think when people say they want the best engineers they sometimes mean the top 25% or something. They don't always have a delusional belief that the top 1% are just sitting around waiting for their amazing company to come along.
rachofsunshine 9/2/2025|
There's a bit of doublethink involved.

On the one hand (and as I mentioned in the post), yes, most employers are not as dumb as I'm making them sound. In principle they know they need to comprpmise - but in practice, they often balk at doing so because they haven't clearly articulated what they will compromise on.

fussylogic 9/2/2025||
"only hire them if they raise the bar of the current team"
koakuma-chan 9/2/2025||
Yeah don't need best engineers to build another CRUD app.
Insanity 9/2/2025||
100% this. Unless a startup is doing something truly novel from a technical point of view, what you really need at the early stages is someone who can glue together CRUD apps.

Later you might have to worry about how to make sure your system can scale, how the overall architecture fits together, etc etc.. but even _having_ those problems is already somewhat of a luxury as it means your startup hasn't died yet.

chistev 9/2/2025||
Everything is CRUD
eunos 9/2/2025||
>Would you rather be a green bar in this chart, or a red one?

LMAO with the cult of "No False positives". They'd rather never hire anyone at all.

llm_nerd 9/2/2025||
I mean...you should probably hire good enough engineers that a website can withstand a pretty small amount of HN attention...

...I kid!

But seriously, though, how is it possible in 2025 that websites can still collapse from the relatively minuscule traffic that an HN front page sends? Are people upvoting this submission without having actually seen it?

EDIT: For the "works for me" people, the site's host, framer.app, uses Amazon's cloud and whole regions are getting SSL errors for this domain.

shadowgovt 9/2/2025||
Out of curiosity: what error are you seeing?

That site appears to be running on an Amazon IP (on my traceroute, in the block https://ipinfo.io/AS16509/52.223.48.0/20). If it didn't load immediately, I wonder if you got unlucky enough to catch an autoscaler napping (or maybe they aren't autoscaling; sometimes dodging the hug of death completely isn't worth the cost, depending on how cost-sensitive a firm is).

(ETA: However, the DNS entry is willing to give some wildly different IPs for the lookup, and at least one of them appears to be flagged as abusive, so if you're behind a corporate firewall it's possible an auto-protector is blocking you).

llm_nerd 9/2/2025||
From my normal desktop it is resolving as 18.204.152.241 / 18.204.152.241 which seems to have misconfigured SSL. From a cloud instance it is drawing 52.223.52.2 / 35.71.142.77 which load properly.
ehnto 9/2/2025|||
I would bet HN's readership are majority lurkers and not signed in.
llm_nerd 9/2/2025||
I know how much of a traffic pump HN is, having had a number of pages front-page here during prime time over the years. It isn't that big of a traffic spike at all. It's a much more interesting and interested group than many sources, but a single-core min-scale cloud compute can handle it presuming you aren't doing something silly.

In this case their hosting app has screwed up SSL configs for some of their GeoIP served options.

datavirtue 9/2/2025||
Let me translate this article. "Just hire my fucking candidate, this week. Thank you." --your recruiter
dizlexic 9/2/2025||
"A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one" - A dude.

+1 for the generalists

throwawaymaths 9/2/2025|
you dont understand. that requires training and i dont want to train a midlevel because:

- theyre just going to hop

- i suck at teaching

- vcs want me to hire an ex-faang

- all of the above

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