Posted by meetpateltech 9/2/2025
It's hard to escape the conclusion this is dumb money jumping on a bandwagon. To justify the expected returns here requires someone to make a transformer like leap again, and that doesn't take spending huge amounts in one place, but funding a lot more speculative thinkers.
Because of the legal uncertainty about what they were doing. There was no fundamental technological impediment.
Here the technology simply doesn't exist and this is a giant bet that it can be magically created by throwing (a lot) more money at the existing idea. This is why it's "dumb money" because they don't seem to understand the dynamics of what they're investing in.
I made a new top-level comment mentioning the 2006 YouTube acquisition only to show that many people were shocked, but -surprise- markets are usually better predictors than individual hunches.
It is very far from a situation where the price discovery mechanism is allowed to work.
1. How much an organization is willing to invest in X competes against other market opportunities.
2. The effective price per share (as part of the latest round of financing) is an implicit negotiation.
It is a matter of degree, sure, but my point still stands: there is a lot of collective information going into this valuation. So an individual should be intellectually humble relative to that. How many people have more information than even an imperfect market-derived quantity?
No, there isn't. For example, I would like to legally bet against Anthropic existing as a going concern in five years. Where can I do this? All the information against them is discarded and hidden.
> How many people have more information than even an imperfect market-derived quantity?
I’ll restate the point because I don’t think you’re understanding what I mean.
Do you think this funding round was irrational from the point of view of the investors? If so, how can you make such a claim? Do you have information they do not?
It is possible you have some bit of knowledge they don’t, but on balance it is unlikely that you are operating from a position of having more relevant information.
Sure it was overcome, but not because of YT or Google, but because of external forces causing those people fighting it to converge on hosting their content on the platform.
Clear, testable predictions are possible if you try.
(if it hadn't been liquidated)
Do you own any Amazon, Alphabet, or Salesforce, perhaps through some index fund? Congratulations, you own some Anthropic. This matters to you.
And market conditions matter to you, too. Every deal is a comparable mark that factors into every other deal. Where this tech is going, and whether we're in a bubble or just getting started... these are forces that are interested in you, even if you're not interested in them.
The issue wasn't that crypto markets in general were down at that point; the issue was they were doing frauds.
If the liquidators had perfect hindsight, they'd be trading their own money. Not cleaning up other people's messes.
Their job is to be responsible and follow procedure.