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Posted by indigodaddy 9/2/2025

This blog is running on a recycled Google Pixel 5 (2024)(blog.ctms.me)
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judge123 9/3/2025|
Is a phone plugged in 24/7 actually more power-efficient than a slice of a mega-optimized cloud server?
chneu 9/3/2025||
Idk about power efficient but it's definitely more resource efficient. Reduce, Reuse, Recycle. Let's really stop fixating on the last one.
bb88 9/3/2025|||
Well, offhand, no one buys a cloud server for power efficiency, people buy into the cloud for reliability, or performance, or cost -- or some combination thereof.

If you're buying ultra-power, you're forgoing power-efficiency.

lmm 9/3/2025|||
> no one buys a cloud server for power efficiency, people buy into the cloud for reliability, or performance, or cost -- or some combination thereof

Low cost and power efficiency are pretty much the same thing for a datacenter though, since cooling is the most expensive part. Hence e.g. AWS pushing Graviton.

bb88 9/4/2025||
I'm not saying you're wrong, but I would like to point out that a phone doesn't need active cooling. I just don't know if Graviton requires active cooling.

And I don't know if that statement is accurate, since passive cooling would be even better than active cooling from an efficiency perspective and particularly if you also consider reliability. Less moving parts would mean higher reliability unless, eg., the thermal paste evaporated on the cpu.

lmm 9/4/2025||
> I would like to point out that a phone doesn't need active cooling.

A single phone, far away from other sources of heat, used only in environments that are comfortable for humans (which may well involve active cooling at the building level), and configured to throttle down when it's used for more than a few minutes, perhaps not (although even then, I've seen phones get uncomfortably hot when gaming, and had my own phone shut down because it's too hot on occasion). If you were setting up banks of phones to run in a datacenter environment, and expecting to run them flat out, you'd probably want to actively cool them.

> And I don't know if that statement is accurate, since passive cooling would be even better than active cooling from an efficiency perspective and particularly if you also consider reliability. Less moving parts would mean higher reliability unless, eg., the thermal paste evaporated on the cpu.

Everything is tradeoffs. Per recent posts here, the likes of AWS are now at the point of cooling CPUs directly with datacenter-scale watercooling; essentially the building's air conditioners, rather than terminating at a fan unit on the inside, feed cooling water directly to a plate mounted onto the CPU heatsink.

SchemaLoad 9/3/2025|||
A single cloud server could host hundreds of thousands of personal static websites though. I suspect they probably do use less power than 100,000 old phones.
BLKNSLVR 9/3/2025|||
It is when it's plugged into a battery which is charged from a solar panel.
pharrington 9/3/2025||
Assuming the power management is correctly setup, yes.
wltr 9/3/2025||
I think about battery being the very dangerous thing to leave on 24/7, especially if that’s some remote location (like attic), or at home, but when you do not work from home. It may be dangerous, plus the battery may die pretty quickly.

My first idea, to mitigate risk of fire, it’s possible to locate some hand made sand bag above the phone, so in case there’s fire, the sand would neutralise it. Also, I’d try to emulate charge-discharge cycles by enabling and disabling smart socket. I wonder if that’s possible to automate using the phone itself. E.g. when it reaches 20% it enables smart charger, and disables it upon reaching 80%. So it can do it in perpetuity. Since the screen would be off all the time, I guess one charging cycle would be once a few days. Which is twice or thrice better than average user who charges their phone once or even twice a day. So, theoretically, a Pixel with a new battery might survive a few years, if not 5 years, off one battery. Then a user might replace the battery. So, theoretically, rubbing it a server is entirely possible, I guess. Otherwise, super cool. I’d love to try this myself now. I guess that may be a perfect solar-powered server. For it, maybe one doesn’t want a smart charger. Just let the sun charge the thing whenever there’s a sunny day.

Quizzical4230 9/3/2025||
Here is a blog I wrote if anyone is interested in using Cloudflared & Termux without modifying the OS!

https://mitanshu7.github.io/html/SSH_into_Android_with_Termu...

Vinnl 9/3/2025||
Related: https://www.fairphone.com/en/2024/11/28/the-fairphone-2-is-r...
Havoc 9/3/2025||
Pretty wild how readily available compute has become. Sure not AI level compute but between modern consumer hardware and the mountain of free tier stuff out there I’ve always got more than ability to use it effectively
indigodaddy 9/3/2025||
Question might be is it still hosted on a phone... DNS resolves to a residential ISP range, and the site seems to be holding up quite well still, so not sure
Aachen 9/3/2025||
Hello, not OP but I can confirm after >10 years of doing it that hosting on reused portable hardware from a home connection is not just viable, it's cheap and stable. No issues with handling the HN frontpage here either
indigodaddy 9/3/2025||
What portable hw are you using?
Aachen 9/4/2025||
Old laptops mainly. At some point an Asus EEE PC. Currently it's a 2012 laptop that I used as daily driver for five years
indigodaddy 9/3/2025|||
Blog author has confirmed that it's still running on the phone. Also it seems to have handled the HN traffic beautifully and without a hitch. Loading extremely fast (as I've been randomly sporadically checking it since it's been on the front page) the whole time. Don't believe there is any CDN involved as the domain resolves to a residential ISP range. Impressive!
BLKNSLVR 9/3/2025|||
Blog was Posted on Aug 29, 2024

I don't think it would suddenly be hosted on something else in the very few days since.

Edited to add: I don't think it's hosted via a phone with a SIM, it would appear that the device is connected to their home network.

Also: Haha, ooops, 2024 (not 2025!)

indigodaddy 9/3/2025||
Right, connected to the home lan would make sense, especially considering they detailed that it's fronted by nginx on another machine. curl -v does reveal nginx serving. I guess I was thinking maybe a phone wouldn't handle the HN load, but probably a mistaken assumption as it is after all a static site (believe it's Hugo generated html) and Pixel 5 likely has decent CPU and RAM (or at least plenty for static requests probably).
smithza 9/3/2025||
USB ethernet tether might be the “how” here. Or some sort of VPN (tailscale) to the home LAN that the phone is hooked up to. Not quite “off-grid”.
2OEH8eoCRo0 9/3/2025||
I like this. We are surrounded by old phones that are more powerful and energy efficient than a raspberry pi we should use them!
treesknees 9/3/2025||
I had a web server running on my jailbroken iPod touch back in 2009/2010. It’s neat but not entirely novel, or practical.
sct202 9/3/2025||
A similar VPS from Digital Ocean (8GB RAM, 4vcores, 160gb storage) is $48/mo so this seems really cost effective. I'm not really sure how much more performance the vcores have vs a mobile chip but for a blog web server it's probably not a huge issue.
mrheosuper 9/4/2025|
I feel we are being so wasteful with our gadget.

Even outdated smartphone like samsung S9-S10 or Iphone X is way overpower than your average SBC(Pi4, Pi5), yet we mostly can't do anything because OEMs decided to make our life harder to recycle them.

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