Posted by Anon84 9/4/2025
They are also releasing model weights for most of their models, where companies like Antropic and until recently OpenAI were FUDing the world that open source will doom us all.
Mistral smartest model is still behind Google, Antropic but they will catch up.
Inspired by the Greek word for human: Anthropos / ἄνθρωπος, the same etymology as English words like anthropology, the study of humans.
(I'd hazard a guess that your first language is something like a Romance language such as French, where people would pronounce that "anthro..." as if there is no h? So a particularly reasonable letter to forget when typing!)
Which makes it particularly hard to write, compared to other latin languages.
Speed and cost is a relevant factor. I have pipelines that need to execute tons of completions and has to produce summaries. Mistral Small is great at it and the responses are lightning fast.
For that use case if you went with US models it would be way more expensive and slow while not offering any benefit at all.
- 1100 tokens/second Mistral Flash Answers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC_F2umJH58
- 189.9 tokens/second Gemini 2.5 Flash Lite https://openrouter.ai/google/gemini-2.5-flash-lite
- 45.92 tokens/second GPT-5 Nano https://openrouter.ai/openai/gpt-5-nano
- 1799 tokens/second gpt-oss-120b (via Cerebras) https://openrouter.ai/openai/gpt-oss-120b
- 666.8 tokens/second Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507 (via Cerebras) https://openrouter.ai/qwen/qwen3-235b-a22b-thinking-2507
Gemini 2.5 Flash Lite and GPT-5 Nano seem to be comparatively slow.That being said, I can not find non-marketing numbers for Mistral Flash Answers. Real-world tps are likely lower, so this comparison chart is not very fair.
Naturally, Cloudflare is in the business, too:
https://docs.mistral.ai/deployment/self-deployment/cloudflar...
mistral.ai name servers:
Name Server: ivan.ns.cloudflare.com
Name Server: ada.ns.cloudflare.com
This said, I am really supportive of Mistral, like their work, and hope that they will get more recognition and more EU-centric institutional support.
And if I were to give over personal information to an AI company, then absolutely I'll prefer a company who actually complies with GDPR.
As to what to do if you, with a customer's permission, put their PD (PII being an American term) into the system, and then get a request to delete it... I'm not sure, sorry I'm not an expert on LLMs. But it's your responsibility to not put the PD into the system unless you're confident that the company providing the services won't spread it around beyond your control, and your responsibility not to put it into the system unless you know how to manage it (including deleting it if and when required to) going forwards.
Hopefully somebody else can come along and fill in my gaps on the options there - perhaps it's as simple as telling it "please remove all traces of X from memory", I don't know.
edit: Of course, you could sign an agreement with an AI provider for them to be a "data controller", giving them responsibility for managing the data in a GDPR-compliant way, but I'm not aware of Mistral offering that option.
edit 2: Given my non-expertise on LLMs, and my experience dealing with GDPR issues, my personal feeling is that I wouldn't be comfortable using any LLM for processing PD that wasn't entirely under my control, privately hosted. If I had something I wanted to do that required using SOTA models and therefore needed to use inference provided by a company like Mistral, I'd want either myself or my colleagues to understand a hell of a lot more about the subject than I currently do before going down that road. Thankfully it's not something I've had to dig into so far.
Europe has a higher industrial output than the US. In Unterlüß a town of 3500 people, Rheinmetall makes about 50% as many 155mm shells as the entire US makes annually. There's a reason your trust fund metaphor takes place in Brooklyn.
You might also want to remember that article 5 was invoked once, and it wasn't by Europe.
Kidding aside, if Europe is this hidden powerhouse as you claim, then its even more odd to be begging the Americans for defense support/leadership from across the Atlantic, and still be importing natural gas from the "evil" Russians while supposedly in a fight with them. Seems to undermine your point no?
Uhhh it isn't Europe taking all its bad news out of its museums, friend. That's the good ol' U.S.A. attempting to hide from its own history.
> Europe is a 24-year old trust fund kid working in a vegan commune while living in a $2M Brooklyn apartment paid for by her dad who is an executive at Exxon.
What a very ... American analogy.
If I'm wrong though, the irony that the European tech community has to resort to a US message board to voice their opinions, only serves to further underline my point.
Yes they proudly fill their museums to the brim with colonial loot. So Europeans can reminisce about good old days when they were the top dog.