Posted by randycupertino 9/5/2025
One could also take a look at pages like cheddar which track what they claim is unusual flow in options.
Data does appear to show a possible link, definitely at the least warrants further research.
We live in Cartesian radical subjectivity - and no cogito to save you from the evil demon.
I remember an old study linking ultrasounds to lefthandedness. It was legit. Families with access to ultrasounds lived in countries/areas where lefthandedness was more culturally accepted, places where it was not drilled out of kids. The study was correct, but anyone touting it as causation was totally incorrect.
Fyi, sharks are way more likely to attack people with australian accents. Never go swimming with an auzzi.
Going back to the top of this thread, I agree that correlation does not mean causation, but in this case, we do not yet even have a justifiable claim of correlation, and RFK Jr. has repeatedly demonstrated his propensity for substituting unfounded opinion and incorrect data for empirical facts, if it suits his agenda.
I wonder whether the political actors in question don't understand correlation != causation, or whether they hope that enough of the populace does not understand it in order to further some goal. But what goal? Buying cheap drug shares? Seems ... silly.
Paracetamol/acetaminophen (the active ingredient in tylenol) is super toxic to the liver. Lots of people overdose on it, some by accident and some deliberately. As little as FOUR GRAMS can cause jaundice and fuck up your liver. If you have a fever, taking 1 gram every couple of hours might seem entirely reasonable, but it can kill you.
Regardless of any autism links, it's good to be careful with this stuff.
One gram every 2 hours is 12 grams which is on the lower end of toxic doses.
Despite common belief, concurrent alcohol consumption surprisingly does not increase risk, since alcohol competes for CYP2E1 and reduces the rate of production of the toxic metabolite NAPQI. Similarly for chronic liver disease. The use of NSAIDS (ibuprofen, etc) with cirrhosis is absolutely less safe than tylenol at therapeutic doses.
I don't know how you jumped from "it's dangerous to take in to high amounts, even 4 times the recommended dose is dangerous" to "the recommened dose is dangerous".
When taken correctly it is very safe and had fewer side effects then NSAIDs like ibuprofen.
How many other medications would that apply to? Countless, I imagine. That’s why we have dosages on every bottle.
after I had dental surgery, I took paracetamol and ibuprofen in alternate doses every 4h - I would have been in screaming pain if I couldn't have both as an option.
I was recently prescribed 800mg ibuprofen for an injury, where 200mg is the standard OTC dose, and I even questioned that.
when my dad decided to step in, he took her to a doctor to get a full review and confiscate the bag.
A person in power makes unsubstantiated (and often disproven claims), and makes major decisions that affect all our lives based on those claims.
And the response ignores the fact that the people in power are making decisions based on complete nonsense and pointing to something fairly trivial that everyone knows about anyways.
I mean, I haven’t been to a doctor who hasn’t pointed out that there are limits to how much acetaminophen one can take. There’s a reason anything above a 650mg dose is prescription only. Theirs is a reason if you’re suffering from a severe fever doctors will give you both acetaminophen and ibuprofen and have you alternate them.
If there is a tiny minority that is apparently unaware of the fact that Tylenol in high doses can have adverse effects or at the very least not even aware of the fact that most medications need to be taken as prescribed or within the suggested limits, that’s a minuscule part of the problem relative to people in power making decisions based on unproven claims.
It’s like saying jumping on subway tracks when there’s no train is entirely reasonable when there are ample warnings on the platform to not do that.
“ Regardless of any autism links” - there you go again with the innuendo. My dude if you want to warn about how dangerous Tylenol is in and of itself when misused, go right ahead, but leave autism out of it, you’re playing right into the “Tylenol cause autism” fearmonger’s hands.
Why should we feel sorry for the skilled trades again? Mechanics are expert famous scammers worse than lawyer (grandma just replaced her blinker fluid!) That’s just one example. Leak detection companies are nearly all scammers too.
This is very true. ( and no, he is not exaggerating)
Lots of drugs are toxic if misused or abused. Acetaminophen is not unique in that regard.
As far as I know he is really well read/informed - most people are not in that league and such people are completely dismissive of anything that is counter-narrative.
Suggesting he's well-read and well-informed is laughable.
Well for me then you are in the category of most people. Ill read/informed and will parrot what mainstream 'science' has to say. Anything that one says that is against the common narrative in medicine is struck down by the 's' word. You can laugh at me.
I wouldn’t entirely rule out there being environmental factors, but from the data I could gather it seems that acetaminophen usage has decreased in pregnancy over the last several decades in the US, while autism has increased.
This all seems to go back to the boomer generation believing the world was simpler when they grew up and that it was somehow ruined. That may be true about some things but the reality of their generation is they had no idea what people were going through, and didn’t have the language to describe it
I'll take RFK being the stopped clock on this over him causing yet more harm to the medical community and to Americans' health.