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Posted by joshmanders 9/8/2025

iPhone dumbphone(stopa.io)
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pjmlp 9/9/2025|
I don't understand the addition, and the gimmicks people come up not to check their phones.

Maybe it is because I was already an adult, when the very first generation of mobile phones became affordable, those that only did calls, SMS wasn't even part of it.

I can easily go out and leave phone at home, or don't feel the urge to check it every 5 minutes.

CalRobert 9/9/2025|
That’s great! Genuinely. We all struggle with our own vices.

I loved when I worked in a place with a beer fridge -chilling out on a Friday afternoon when it was sunny in Dublin was great - but for any alcoholics around it probably was hell. On the other hand, I hate it when places have free lunch and snacks because I am a compulsive eater.

inshard 9/8/2025||
You could also just ask a spouse or family member to set your screen time pw and disable safari. Install parental controlled browser like Spin Browser. And also disable image loading in the settings of Spin Browser. This was a small but significant factor in screen time. Just the images on websites! No more limbic over stimulation!
herpdyderp 9/9/2025||
I'll have to remember this when I next get a new phone so I don't have to wipe my current device.
rahul342 9/10/2025||
For me, I can push through and not install the social media apps. I have noticed I'll start doing some other screen time activity like browsing HN more, or news site. The usefulness is higher but still am unable to trade off total screen time.
lifeinthevoid 9/8/2025||
I have more issues with self control on my computer than on my smartphone. Anyone's got any tips for that one?
dylan604 9/8/2025||
Are you using a desktop or laptop? I used to carry my laptop around with me to use whenever wherever as designed, and found myself always using it. Setting aside a dedicated desk space where I limit the use of the laptop made it much easier to just think of it as desktop and less mobile. Now, using it feels like I'm at work, and it is much easier to walk away from it.

Finding other things to do when bored instead of opening a browser is key. You're going to fill the time with something, so you have to find the something else.

sixtyj 9/8/2025|||
There was K9 Web Protection but it was ended in 2019 by Symantec. It was perfect because after setting up password you had to wait one week to unblock it back again :)

You can try LeechBlock. It works as plugin in all browsers.

First thirty seconds are the worst for will :)

So it is better to ask a relative/friend/parent/spouse to set up a password for you - then you cannot unblock the sites back again without them.

L0in 9/9/2025||
I tried LeechBlock and others but even when i enable the most extreme options, i just press right click and remove extension. Bypassing everything.
stopachka 9/8/2025|||
What worked for me: working in person with others.

I found that it's much harder for me to procrastinate on my laptop when I am working with peers. The repeated focus time on the laptop during work hours 'conditioned' me to use it for work more.

dangus 9/9/2025||
But how much time are you losing to a commute?

I kind of agree with you in a way as I ultimately think that working remote is a bit harder on social health and maybe even physical health of getting out of the house, but in another way I just don't know if I can go back to all the negatives of the office.

I mean, my toilet at home washes my ass with gentle warm water. The work toilet randomly decides to splash toilet water on me with the violent "automatic" flusher after I'm done wiping myself with transparent sandpaper.

mklepaczewski 9/9/2025||
You don’t need the other person to be in the same room - a video call works just fine. In fact, it can be even better for productivity since there's less chit-chat.
dangus 9/9/2025||
It is my anecdotal experience that a whole bunch of my current friends are from a pre-pandemic in-office job and I’ve made zero lasting friendships at my remote jobs.
Jaxan 9/8/2025|||
Write your own hosts file and block all websites you don’t want to visit.
eigencoder 9/9/2025|||
Switch to a desktop!
apwell23 9/8/2025||
pomodoro
crinkly 9/8/2025||
I would use mine as a dumb phone but the apps are useful.

I don’t have any social media apps on mine though. That’s what kills you.

teeeeeegz 9/9/2025|
Yep that is half the job done already!
captn3m0 9/8/2025||
afaik installing a configuration profile isn't supported with lockdown mode, so you have to pick one. but neat hack. I've installed hosted-profiles (.mobileconfig) files without factory-reset, curious why didn't you go for that route? Just to make it harder?
stopachka 9/8/2025||
> lockdown mode

That's interesting. I didn't know about lockdown mode. Noting!

> I've installed hosted-profiles (.mobileconfig) files without factory-reset, curious why didn't you go for that route?

Afaik the only way to disable the App Store is to go through this schlep of a factory reset and having Configurator prepare the phone for 'supervision'.

adregan 9/8/2025||
So you don't have to go through the factory reset if you are fine with having the app store? Safari is the only app I need to excise, and the OS won't let me delete it.
HelloUsername 9/8/2025|||
> installing a configuration profile isn't supported with lockdown mode

You can disable lockdown mode, install the .mobileconfig, enable lockdown mode again. Which is what I did with https://apple.nextdns.io

eigencoder 9/9/2025||
You can install mobileconfig files without factory-reset, but I've found some settings won't "take" until the phone is supervised.
LeoPanthera 9/8/2025||
If you disable the App Store, as OP claims to, does that also stop installed apps receiving updates?
wpm 9/8/2025||
No.

Source: Used to do enterprise Apple MDM for a living.

oever 9/8/2025||
Does it block installing PWA's? Or are those linked to safari?
eigencoder 9/9/2025||
I think it will block using the PWA's, unless you add their bundle id to the allow list
xenator 9/8/2025|||
I think it only disable the icon, not underlying frameworks, etc
indianhippie 9/8/2025|||
I have App Store disabled on my kids iPad and it does disable updates. I have to manually re-enable it and install updates every few days.
balder1991 9/8/2025||
I also searched for this and couldn’t find an answer.
RobertEva 9/9/2025||
I did a “soft dumbphone” too: a Focus that only allows Phone/Texts/Maps/Camera. Screen Time has a passcode my partner keeps, and an automation re-enables the Focus if I toggle it off. Keeps utility, kills the slot-machine pull.
twsted 9/8/2025|
It's strange to call a device with access to Claude and ChatGPT a "dumbphone"
stopachka 9/8/2025||
Strangely enough, I found Claude and ChatGPT crucial to making all this work.

In the essay:

> Whenever I need some information, I can just ask my LLM, and it can give me a distraction free summary. It helps the long-tail of weird situations too: for example if someone asks me to take a look at a website, I can ask my LLM to scrape it and summarize the details for me. It’s pretty hard to get distracted this way.

dudeofea 9/9/2025|||
I find google searches distracting, I can only imagine what an AI chat must be like. I use a flip phone.
dylan604 9/8/2025||
or a twisted way in calling Claude and ChatGPT dumb which I wouldn't disagree with myself
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