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Posted by CharlesW 5 days ago

All clickwheel iPod games have now been preserved for posterity(arstechnica.com)
264 points | 64 commentspage 2
chmod775 3 days ago|
Reminds of those games Archos (Gmini or AV?) devices had decades ago. Some of them were quite neat.
black_puppydog 3 days ago|
dear god I had forgotten Achos. I had a Gmini 120 and loved it. :)
Tepix 3 days ago||
Great to see this piece of history preserved. We need more innovative game controllers!
ksynwa 3 days ago||
Sorry but I have a tangential question. What is the state of portable music players these days? Are there any that are good and reasonably priced?
bondarchuk 3 days ago||
https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TargetStatus

I have one of AIGO EROS Q / EROS K / AGPTek H3 / HIFI WALKER H2 / Surfans F20 with Rockbox and it's great. And the existence of reasonably prices half-terabyte SD cards is obviously a great improvement too.

unfitted2545 3 days ago|||
A used iPod (probably flashed with the open source Rockbox firmware) for the cool factor and reducing ewaste. This is an amazing guide: https://yuuiko.github.io/iPodGuide/iPodGuidev2-1.pdf that gives recommendations on what model and the mods you can do. I have a 5.5 gen with an SD card mod all for £50.

Edit: Actually, I forgot the eBay listing said it was a 5.5 gen but the serial number when I got it was just 5th gen, and I got a full refund! £20 in total then.

echelon_musk 3 days ago|||
The CPU in the iPod Video is a measly 80MHz compared to the 216MHz iPod Classic. I'd recommend anyone to buy a Classic.
mannyv 1 day ago||
The DAC in the video 5.5 series was considered to be much better (Wolfson).
echelon_musk 8 hours ago||
https://old.reddit.com/r/ipod/comments/qzjugl/cirrus_vs_wolf...
StrangeSound 3 days ago|||
To add to that, here's a guide for the actual modding process - https://opista.com/posts/ipod-classic-modding-guide
aa-jv 3 days ago|||
FIIO's M21 looks pretty decent:

https://www.fiio.com/m21

Its an audiophile market now, you know .. gold buttons sound better, and all that.

taneliv 3 days ago|||
"Buy now" button goes to a 404 page? Or maybe I need to be on a Chinese VPN, who knows these days.

(Anyway, I was merely interested in the price range, and probably not actually buying.)

Sony Walkman series also has nifty looking devices, but way over my budget (even the entry level model).

aa-jv 3 days ago||
Dunno whats up with their "Buy Now" button, other than its not unusual for manufacturers to not actually sell their products direct.

Amazon has it listed for 220euro's, which is a reasonable price imho.

Of course there are other manufacturers out there, this is just the one I know about ..

pjerem 3 days ago|||
"reasonably priced"
mystifyingpoi 3 days ago|||
It's not really a mp3 player that a regular person would use anyway. Seems to be all on high-res audio and high power output for the headphones. No casual music listener needs that.
aa-jv 3 days ago|||
$300 is reasonable, imho. Cheaper than an iPhone anyway.
crims0n 3 days ago|||
I wanted to dip my toes in and bought a HiBy R4, it is now my primary music player and I have no regrets. Fair warning, it can kick off a headphone rabbit hole.
ksynwa 3 days ago||
Wow that looks really nice. Any idea if the player is able to handle R128_* loudness normalisation tags? I couldn't find any information about it online.
crims0n 2 days ago||
Apologies I am unfamiliar with it... if you can point me to a sample I would be happy to try.
IlikeKitties 3 days ago|||
https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/106533110
t-3 2 days ago|||
Yes, but you need spend apple-level money on obscure Chinese stuff that looks suspiciously like a cheap android phone with no cell modem, or you can spend relatively very small amounts on cheap players with wildly varying software and hardware quality, or you can buy and refurbish a used ipod.
mkbkn 3 days ago|||
Replaced with usually expensive (as compared to non-Applle devices) "digital audio players".
DecentShoes 3 days ago|||
Mod an iPod with hundreds of gigabytes of SD storage, a bigger battery, and bluetooth
mkbkn 3 days ago|||
By the way, take a look at Snowsky Echo Mini
rokkamokka 3 days ago||
Normally, a phone with a streaming app or large SD card.
nanna 3 days ago||
Any chance to install these games on Rockbox?
q3k 3 days ago|
Technically doable but you'd have to put in a bunch of effort (effectively reimplement the stock OS's API surface, which includes OpenGL for later devices).

I also think these games are still not decrypted - some previous ones were, but the methodology was not made public. The decryption routine in the devices I've looked at is obfuscated, so it might be easier to modify the firmware to save decrypted blobs than reimplement it.

black_puppydog 3 days ago|
Okay, now all we need is to port them to the tangara. :D
Pfhortune 3 days ago|
I wanted to love the Tangara... The dearth of actual buttons killed it for me. I have shelved it in favor of modding up my iPod 5 with BT + USB-C (with the moonlit.market kit).