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Posted by ChrisArchitect 5 days ago

Tomorrow's emoji today: Unicode 17.0(jenniferdaniel.substack.com)
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Alifatisk 5 days ago|
Still hoping for flag of Kurdistan to be included
Rendello 4 days ago|
As of 2022 the Unicode Consortium will not accept proposals for any new flags. Moving forward, anything with an ISO 3166-1 code will automatically get a flag. The Iraq Kurdistan subdivision mentioned below has a 3166-2 subcode, so doesn't automatically get a flag pushed though. They could've worded it less confusingly, but the rest of the article is quite thorough.

> As a recent example, Kurdistan (a subdivision of Iraq) became an official subdivision in ISO 3166-2 (IQ-KR) on May 3, 2021. The corresponding Unicode subdivision code (iqkr) is slated for release in CLDR v41 on Apr 6, 2022. At that point the flag for Kurdistan will officially be valid — any platform, app, or font could support it. But that doesn’t mean it automatically gets in the queue for everyone’s phone. Only countries with ISO 3166-1 region codes are automatically recommended and require no proposal to move forward.

https://blog.unicode.org/2022/03/the-past-and-future-of-flag...

runarberg 5 days ago||
So we have a treasure chest but still no lighthouse.
mns 5 days ago|
Or a submarine :(
vegadw 5 days ago||
I just want sitelen pona in Unicode already >:(
int_19h 5 days ago|
https://sites.google.com/view/sitelenemoji
bbor 5 days ago||
As much as I want HN to finally support markdown, I really want them to end the baffling anti-emoji stance. They’re adorable, versatile, fun, and useful - the only reason to ban them from forum comments is banal distaste for the new.

Personally speaking, I consider it anti-zoomer discrimination of the highest order!! ;) XD <3

More on topic: the new emoji range from “finally!!” (Sasquatch) to “huh?” (Landslide), as usual. The skin tone improvements are welcome, of course! If we’re gonna abandon the Simpsons monotone aesthetic, we should go all the way. Props to the (unpaid…?) people who made this happen.

pcthrowaway 5 days ago||
As a rock climber I anticipate wanting to use the rockfall emoji (not landslide) much more frequently than the sasquatch, though it depends how wild my climbing adventures get
bbor 5 days ago|||
In glad someone is excited for it!

I’ve done a bit of climbing, and I guess I’m just struggling to imagine using it… rocks falling is either not a big enough deal to text about (cause we’re all following safety guidelines by wearing helmets, right?), or way too big of a deal to make light of with an emoji. The latter case applies even more so in cases where the rocks hit buildings.

The only situations I can imagine are a) “im gonna be late, the road is blocked by rockfall” and b) “couldn’t go skiing this weekend, an avalanche closed the slope”. But maybe two is enough! And who knows, maybe it’ll be interpreted as “collapse” in general, which is broadly useful obviously.

pcthrowaway 5 days ago||
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dfee 5 days ago|||
I’d imagine - depending on your location - you might need to quickly text out a Sasquatch emoji from a perch on a climb.

After all, Sasquatch live near many rock climbing destinations. https://www.bfro.net/GDB/state_listing.asp

nulld3v 5 days ago|||
Feels like there is something missing every time I use a forum that doesn't support phpBB smilies.
bmacho 5 days ago||
Here are some ascii https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_emoticons

Otherwise can't you just write :emoticon:

zahrc 5 days ago||
I’ve been around the internet for a long and a lot of time and have never seen s2 being used to convey a heart… took me second to figure it out actually.
lifthrasiir 5 days ago|||
I think HN should allow emojis but strip all colors out of them. Colors are what often makes emojis so annoying---without them they are just another characters.
qingcharles 4 days ago|||
I use emojis like a fiend, but I actually like that HN is just raw text. Something minimal about it. You can always go full kaomoji if you feel sad ; (◞‸◟)
Rendello 4 days ago|||
I like emoji in personal texting, but I personally like that they're stripped from HN.
arduanika 5 days ago||
Eh, it's just one of the ways that HN tries to keep it pg.
Biganon 4 days ago||
Very good pun, if intended
arduanika 3 days ago||
:)
jack21099 5 days ago||
Unicode is all about encoding text in a universal standard.
AndriyKunitsyn 5 days ago||
Still no fig hand gesture emoji? Come on.

https://www.unicode.org/emoji/emoji-proposals-status.html

madamelic 5 days ago||
I love using emojis but can't stand what it has turned into.

I have a Boomer opinion when it comes to emojis: there are just too many.

At some point we need to cut a lot of emojis or come up with a better way to insert them into conversations.

We are at nearly 4,000 emojis. Scrolling through a list is bad UX, remembering or trying to think of keywords to pull one up is bad UX.

I think we could cut it down to 2,000 easily, no one would notice. I would venture to guess that 98% of all emoji usage is contained to 200 emojis with these very esoteric emojis getting no usage outside of accidental or emoji spam/copy-pasta.

Here's _my_ proposal: We have a list of deletions. Every year, if an emoji is not used above a certain threshold, it's deleted permanently and the concept of the emoji is banned for 5 years.

dingnuts 5 days ago||
> Every year, if an emoji is not used enough, it's deleted.

This would be like deleting kanji, and would also require perfect surveillance of everyone's devices.

If you want Chat Control you don't have to hide behind weird recommendations about emoji

madamelic 5 days ago|||
The proposal was tongue-in-cheek but the sentiment remains. There are way too many emojis and we should figure out a way to cull the herd.
mmastrac 5 days ago|||
You could easily do a zero-knowledge proof thing where you transmit a bitmask of emoji used over the next 365 days, with N bits randomly permuted. In aggregate, you'd still be able to count usage without saying definitively someone used or didn't use a particular emoji.
miloignis 5 days ago|||
This feels more like a proposal for whatever emoji-picker you're using than for Unicode - I don't use most of the scripts defined by Unicode, and I don't use most of the emoji either. No one is forcing me to use every Unicode codepoint.

Them being defined is only a benefit to me if I do happen to need to use them, say to copy-paste Sanskrit to translate it, or if I want to make a joke about bigfoot with an emoji punchline.

eviks 5 days ago|||
2000 vs 4000 makes no difference for the UI of a picker, and you can have your recently used/favorites with your 200 in the picker to avoid the long scroll
shafoshaf 5 days ago||
I basically still only use :), :(, and :P. I also have to "undo" it when they switch my chars to an actual emoji. The only one I wish were easier to show is ¯\\(ツ)/¯
ctippett 5 days ago|||
Apple's text replacement feature is perfect for this. I have a bunch of ascii emojis that auto-complete for me when I type a matching string (I've based mine on the old BB Code emoticon syntax[1]), e.g. :shrug: → ¯\\(ツ)/¯ (as it happens I also have a text replacement that converts -> into an arrow).

[1] https://tl.net/forum/smilies.php

zahrc 5 days ago|||
shrugs and walks off
bsimpson 5 days ago||
Killer whales have a particular significance to Portuguese sailors.

There's a group of whales off the coast of Portugal who have a lot of fun fucking up boats. They'll knock the rudder off a boat, potentially sinking it, for sport.

https://www.orcas.pt/

oldpersonintx2 5 days ago|
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ryandrake 5 days ago||
LOL those evil Standards Body thugs, waiting in the shadows for you to open up a keyboard so they can jump out and force your fingers to type in specific emojis that you don't like! How dare they?
Sparkle-san 5 days ago|||
It this the real bigfoot conspiracy theory?
bombcar 5 days ago||
real racists love those 'mojis, now you can be horribly racist just in a few characters!
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