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Posted by excerionsforte 6 days ago

Apple Debuts iPhone 17(www.apple.com)
102 points | 279 commentspage 4
reilly3000 6 days ago||
I’ve been keen on having something that can do decent on-device inference. Otherwise my 14 Pro is still fantastic and probably will be for some time.
stevenhubertron 6 days ago||
All models are so uninteresting to me. Maybe its finally time I try the Nothing Phon
sotix 5 days ago||
I've been waiting for this for a year, but I'm a bit disappointed. It's larger than the 17 and 17 pro, and it weighs more than my SE 3rd gen. The price is also insane. It costs the same as an entire computer.

I just want a lightweight device that makes calls, send texts, can snap a quick photo, has maps, mobile payments, and can order a cab. These phones are clearly aimed at consuming content, and I've been pushed out of the market. What to do?

seanmcdirmid 5 days ago|
You can still buy a decent budget android phone that meets most of your requirements for only a few hundred dollars. The Samsung Galaxy M56 5G is only $400. The pixel 9a is only $499. Android probably has something that you are looking for, Apple isn't really competing in that space.
ivape 6 days ago||
I just browse the web on my phone. In fact, my phone is already too expensive just for that one thing. I’m not upgrading until the new phones can run a 5B model with adequate context size and adequate inferencing speeds.
numpy-thagoras 5 days ago||
I will upgrade when I see actual 10x optical zoom
kotaKat 6 days ago||
Once again disappointed that we’re getting screwed over by “bill credit” carrier offers for 36 months and wish that US carriers would stop that crap.
toast0 6 days ago||
Most of my circle seems to like that crap. You can opt out, all of the carriers have prepaid offerings with much lower rates and a lot less financing. Maybe you get less data priority, almost certainly you get a lower tier of customer service, but those are ok tradeoffs for me. If you want to save more money, you can go to former MVNOs now owned by the carrier they run on or actually independent MVNOs. https://prepaidcompare.net/ seems like a good place to compare plans. They also have deals listings if you want to have fun with subsidy locked phones.
ben1040 6 days ago|||
The 2 year contracts from the 2000s and early 2010s are back with a vengeance.
devrand 6 days ago||
What's the concern here? Can the phone not just be bought outright?
kotaKat 6 days ago|||
If I trade in my phone, I want my trade-in offer now. Instead, the full value of whatever trade-in deal provided is split over 36 months as bill credits.

While the new phone might actually be “free” in one of these promotions, it’s not, naturally, because you’ve been thrown into a 36 month installment agreement separate of the cellphone service they’ve sold you on (that they also claim is “price locked” while independently raising surcharges and other fees).

NoPicklez 5 days ago|||
Then I'd just buy the phone outright and sell it at the end or use another trade in route through Apple directly
burnt-resistor 6 days ago||||
Sell your phone, never trade it in. That's the surest way to lose money.
lotsofpulp 5 days ago|||
Do a little more work and sell it on Facebook Marketplace.

Convenience comes at a cost.

burnt-resistor 6 days ago|||
With inflation such as it is, finance it and don't be concerned about a temporary lock. Most carriers will unlock it after X months and/or for travel. Let the phone carrier eat it and conserve capital.
devrand 5 days ago||
It seems like you can also finance it interest free through Apple themselves without being locked to a carrier.
hdjl930jK 6 days ago|
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bitpush 6 days ago||
Mind walking through what you saw that helped you make the decision?
hdjl930jK 6 days ago|||
> Mind walking through what you saw that helped you make the decision?

I upgrade every year to impress friends, family, and colleagues. I don’t use a case.

I’ll be ordering the orange 17 pro.

nottorp 6 days ago|||
At least he's honest.

Tbh I would order an orange phone... but i bet Apple will make it muted and boring instead of really orange.

Toyota not Renault.

bertili 6 days ago||||
Haha, badass comment. I love that you are so pumped you couldn’t help creating a hackernews account just to let us all know.
piyuv 6 days ago||||
Being able to impress people with 1099$ sure is strange
dvfjsdhgfv 6 days ago||||
I wonder - are they impressed?
slaw 6 days ago||||
I wish I have a friend or colleague that could be impressed by a new phone.
bitpush 6 days ago||||
haha, more power to you!
NewsaHackO 6 days ago|||
based
ronnier 6 days ago||||
Not the Op but I’m in the same boat. I get the latest and whoever has the oldest phone among my wife and two kids will get my 16 pro.
TavsiE9s 6 days ago|||
"New shiny!"
dvfjsdhgfv 6 days ago|||
Congratulations, good to know.
burnt-resistor 6 days ago|||
iPhone 16 Pro owner will not be upgrading because there's no value in it.