The only responsible disclosure is full disclosure.

I wish we had more choices beyond Android and iPhone.

I think this thread makes it quite clear that Android is not a secure OS, period. Like, maybe it’s safer on a Pixel with Google’s own distribution, but even still, Graphene is claiming that Google’s team is stretched thin and isn’t fixing issues from 2024.

Meanwhile, Apple is allegedly building the most secure devices you can connect to the Internet: https://techcrunch.com/2025/09/11/apples-latest-iphone-secur...

If the smart plan of having others reverse-engineer the fixes won't work, I imagine they'll turn into a delayed-source product.

To my recollection, they always maintained that being open-source doesn't matter for security, after all

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llyou_m1233

Don't trust these guys.

"They can easily get it from OEMs or even make an OEM."[0]

I agree with their points in the thread, but could Graphene "become" an OEM to get access to the security patches sooner? Just curious.

[0] https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/115164297480036952