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Posted by zdw 9/13/2025

Raspberry Pi Synthesizers – How the Pi is transforming synths(www.gearnews.com)
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3036e4 9/13/2025|
I have an old MeeBlip synth. It is basically a box with some knobs and switches and a cheap 8-bit Atmel AVR inside, similar to the processor in some old Arduinos. Source code is available (I think this repo: https://github.com/MeeBlip/meeblip-synth) and they expose some pins to flash new code to it, but I never tried.

Any Raspberry Pi, even the Pico, must be orders of magnitude more powerful than that old AVR and easier to program too. A lofi groovebox made from a Pico with a few knobs and buttons attached sounds like a fun project someone probably already made.

closetkantian 9/13/2025||
Recently I've been thinking about deconstructing a ThinkPad and putting the internals inside a MIDI controller. We're at the stage where VSTs/DAWs easily sound better than any synthesizer with internal sounds. But, it's a huge pain to carry a laptop and a sound card to a gig. When will someone address this?
nottorp 9/13/2025||
Silly layman question: where is the actual sound generation done? Because I don't see the Raspberry Pi as free of electrical noise...

(Still have memories of trying to find the usb port that didn't introduce noise in my usb creative thingy...)

MomsAVoxell 9/13/2025|
In the case of both Zynthian and Monome systems, both based around the raspberry Pi, there is a dedicated ADDAC circuit added to the case.

For things like the Korg synths which use the raspberry pi, they added their own DAC's too.

barrenko 9/13/2025||
When the word synthesizer is used, it's not meant to be a piano like thing or? For me the word is analogous to "piano keyboard" but it seems to not be so...
kstrauser 9/13/2025||
A synth is a device that generates sounds. They’re often (but not always!) controlled by piano-style keyboards, but so are lots of non-synth things. For example, although a piano emulator could be a synth, they’re generally not thought of that way. A sampling keyboard is not a synth: it’s playing back recorded sounds.

Lots of synths spent their whole lives never connected to a keyboard, but might live in rack mounts and be driven by sequencers or DAWs.

beAbU 9/15/2025|||
Some synths have piano keyboards attached to the device, some have buttons. Some piano keyboards are not capable of producing their own sounds, and must be plugged into a device that makes the sound.

A synthesizer is a device that generates (synthesizes) sound. This is done using electronic circuits. There are many many many many different ways to create sound using electronic circuits, hence the many different types of synths on the market. These days however, we see more and more synthesizers using digital circuits or even embedded software to generate sound. It has reached a point where it's possible to take the firmware of a (very expensive) "hardware" synthesizer, run it on your computer inside an emulator and get exactly the same sound out of it. Heck, some commercial synths (Korg) are these days nothing more than a box with knobs and a raspberry pi, running their commercial synth plugin software.

The "piano keyboard" in your mental model is merely the controller - the device that generates the instructions on what note the synth must play. Piano keyboards are not the only type of control mechanism available to use. For every type of instrument out there, there probably is a controller version of that instrument, e.g. https://www.akaipro.com/ewi-usb

otabdeveloper4 9/13/2025||
The OG synthesizer concept is the combination of oscillator + frequency filter + amplifier.

As a musical instrument it is closest in function and mode of operation to the singing human voice and nothing at all like a piano.

superb_dev 9/13/2025||
I rebuilt an old midi keyboard and put a Pi inside it to run the onboard synth. I used Cardinal, a fork of VCV Rack, to define all of the synth voices
charcircuit 9/13/2025||
What if instead it ran on a macbook which you plugged the keyboard into. You could still make the software open source if you want.
snom380 9/13/2025|
Arturia does that, and Korg did as well (making controller keyboards specific for emulating a synth, with the software running on a Mac or PC.

Downsides: - if the software doesn’t get updated, you’re stuck running an old OS an old Mac that supports it. - you can’t just turn on the synth and use it, you need to find a cable, connect it to the Mac, launch the software, etc

m_kos 9/13/2025||
What I don't quite get is why manufacturers of midi controllers (Arturia, Novation, NI, etc.), with the exception of, possibly only Korg, don't release any of their digital instruments as mobile apps. After sitting the whole day in front of my computer, the last thing I want to do is to swap VS Code for Ableton or Kontakt and spend a few more hours in the glow of my monitors.

(I do get that if you are very serious about making music you need a proper computer set up. I am just a mere amateur hobbyist.)

jackvalentine 9/13/2025|||
This is why I bought a teenage engineering op-1. Yes it’s overpriced, yes there are definitely better little desktop synths but I can whip this one out and just go wild without having to look at a (real) screen.

Same reason I keep my Roland Fantom around - has everything built in to the device.

piltdownman 9/15/2025||||
NI are probably more focused on DJ stuff at the mobile app level.

Arturia have tried a few different hardware-hosts over the years, but seem to be focusing on their Astrolab platform rather than supporting iOS (Android is a non-runner due to latency).

Novation's main offerings are about analog signal paths. Back in the early 00s they had a few weird integrations like the X-Station, but its the analog nature of the bass-station and subsequent *Brute line that maintained their USP and cachet. Things like the Circuit/Launchpad are obvious AIO attempts at taking the share from similar form-factor iPad sequencing and clip launching utilities.

zokier 9/13/2025|||
Both Novation and Arturia have some stuff for iPad?
rfl890 9/13/2025||
What is the point of making hardware synths on a Pi when you could just make a VST?
diggan 9/13/2025||
What's the point of giving constructive feedback when you can question people's motivation instead?

Do you think that making a VST is a realistic alternative to the linked instruments in the submission article? I'm guessing they're building hardware because they want something physical, it's pretty self-evident isn't it?

rfl890 9/13/2025||
Hardware synths have their own custom DSP circuit which separates them from VSTs as it gives each synth a unique sound. If you take out the DSP circuit and replace it with a general purpose CPU, then you basically have a fancy layer over what is essentially a VST plugin. Sure, the hardware aspect is convenient, but in terms of sound I think we should stick to custom circuits.
diggan 9/14/2025||
I was thinking more of the physical controls rather than the implementation details :) Most of the reasons I use hardware rather than software boils down to "feels great" and "is more fun" basically, because of the physical controls.

The precise and exact sound is less interesting, how you're able to conjure it at just the right moment and with precise controls tend to be more interesting for me personally.

beAbU 9/15/2025|||
You need the VST anyway. Customers are going to ask for a "digital" version (VST) of your successful hardware synths. Arturia's VSTs are great and very popular for this reason.

So if you already have a VST, but you also have customers asking for actual hardware, why not slap your existing VST onto a Pi, and ship your "hardware" synth with this Pi inside? You end up supporting one software product across both lines.

otabdeveloper4 9/13/2025|||
For a musical instrument you want something portable and playable live, which is the opposite of what your VST contraption is.

(Only a very tiny minority of people want to record music. Music is mostly a realtime experience.)

lucyjojo 9/13/2025|||
reliability
sbarre 9/13/2025||
I can't tell if this is sarcasm.
4k93n2 9/13/2025||
theres also things like the M8 tracker from Dirtywave which uses a teensy board and sounds really good for a chip of that size
m_kos 9/13/2025||
The m8 and the recently, heavily promoted Woovebox 2 are the Emacs/Vim of grooveboxes. They hide a vast amount of functionality behind what initially seems like an impenetrable jungle of button presses and shortcuts; a system that ultimately proves* to be highly ergonomic.

*Based on what I read. Sadly, I don't own these devices.

packetlost 9/13/2025||
I own an M8 (and also, happen to be a vim user lol) and it's sorta true, but it feels a lot more natural if you're familiar with the LSDJ-style workflow. LSDJ is a DAW built for the GameBoy so was working with very constrained hardware. Both are derived from sequencer workflows, but I'm not quite sure which or where those originated.

That being said, the M8 workflow isn't all that bad, but it's definitely less visual than most other DAWs.

padraigfl 9/13/2025||
Yeah I'm not an expert by any means but my understanding is the Teensy 4.1 is especially ideal for DIY synths between the number of pins available and its strengths as an audio processor.
bartvk 9/13/2025|
Typical how they first let Korg do the talking, when actually, Korg is much slower to innovate. With one line, the article mentions Tasty Chips synthesizers (who are friends of mine), but as far as I know, they were actually the first, just check their Kickstarter campaigns which go back ten years.

Note that using RPi is not all sunshine and roses. There were times that compute modules were extremely hard to get.

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