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Posted by articsputnik 10/13/2025

Smartphones and being present(herman.bearblog.dev)
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simgt 10/13/2025|
On top of what's suggested in the post, I found the following helpful:

- having a "phone box", the small uncomfortable shoe bench now has a shelf above it for phones, phones shall only be used on that bench

- only my partner knows the "screen time" password on iOS

- putting away my laptop and using a desktop computer instead

My current problem is listening to podcasts, I don't have a convenient way to listen to them without my phone.

wltr 10/13/2025||
I had a side gig that involved me driving every day for at least one hour, but usually more. I listened to all kinds of podcasts and audio books. But at some point, I realised I cannot process that much of information. That’s how I stopped, perhaps we humans aren’t designed to process that much daily.
emerongi 10/13/2025|||
It feels validating that other people have a similar experience. I simply can't take in that much information. It eventually starts making me feel terrible.

The big issue is that I'm not very good at moderating my intake. I'm a crack addict for information and one small dose will turn into a bender.

dustincoates 10/13/2025|||
I think it's fine if you accept it as entertainment and nothing more. That's why I don't get how people listen to audiobooks on 3x. The goal isn't to ingest as much as you can--the goal is to enjoy it and maybe learn something useful here and there.
sotix 10/14/2025|||
I downloaded all of hardcore history and added the podcast to my iPod. Fun fact: the iPod is why it's called a podcast!
armonster 10/13/2025||
Get a secondary "podcast only" phone
dustincoates 10/13/2025|||
I have an old phone I've repurposed as a media player. It has a 500 GB SD card and Oluancher to give it a really convenient way to only show the apps I want.

I've got a somewhat weekly 6 hour round-trip commute where it get a lot of use.

nonethewiser 10/13/2025|||
RIP mp3 players
smugglerFlynn 10/13/2025||
> While I still have the twitch to check my phone when I'm waiting for a coffee, or in-between activities—because my brain's reward system has been trained to do this—I'm now rewarded with nothing

For those looking to drop a(ny) habit: this seems to be the key

jdpigeon 10/13/2025||
A few years ago I traded my huge Google Pixel 6 for a 3 inch Uniherz Jelly.

It's not perfect, as I still spend a lot of time on Reddit and HN on the tiny screen while commuting, but it's moved the needle for me.

throwaway243123 10/13/2025||
I've debated getting that phone heavily. My reasons not to:

1. it's gotta be bad for the eyes on a screen that small 2. the Pixel camera!

wltr 10/13/2025||
A small iPhone has pretty good cameras, e.g. 12 or 13 mini.
carlosjobim 10/13/2025|||
Get a Kindle and read good books while commuting. You shouldn't feel bad for not looking out the window.
wltr 10/13/2025|||
I researched this phone, and while being cool (I like the idea), it’s not practical for me to hunt it, it’s not trivial to buy in my area. However, I have a similar idea to others: an old tiny iPhone (4S or 5S if you can survive with the obsolete system, FaceTime and iMessage works there last time I checked, a year or two ago), or SE 1st gen (I use it as my second phone to my 12 mini), which is perfectly usable (Safari is stuck at whatever version it has from iOS 15). It’s not very practical everyday phone, but it works for most tasks, including navigation with maps. So if you’re hunting a small distraction free phone, an obsolete iPhone is a pretty decent thing to buy, and is usually cheap. I bet getting a new battery might be more expensive than the phone itself, unless you’re up to the task (it’s not complicated, if you have the basic instruments). I know it’s the opposite of an open phone with an easily swappable battery, but it’s a decent step into the direction. And I found an old iPhone being very usable for very basic tasks. If I had a Pro Max, I’d surely wasted much more time on it. I know because I had one before.
qmr 10/13/2025|||
Huh I came across some very similar looking phones on a similar looking website just yesterday.

I guess these phones are rebadged?

nemomarx 10/13/2025||
Just curious, do you have to do anything to get Reddit fitting on that screen properly? I almost imagine it would need a reader mode kinda thing
BoredPositron 10/13/2025||
You don't treat the symptoms; you treat the cause. dumbphones, minimalist phones, and crippled smartphones are as effective as a smoker throwing away a full pack, only to buy a new one when stressed or drunk. If you use doomscrolling as an escape, you will inevitably fall back to it when life hits. While a few may manage to change their habits with a restricted device if the stars align for long enough, it won't work for most. You need to first figure out why you do it.
oarsinsync 10/13/2025|
“You must figure out why you smoke in the first place, before you will be able to quit” isn’t a universal truth.
makeitdouble 10/13/2025|||
This isn't universal but will tremendously help quitting. There will still be the nicotine issue, but it will help clear the other factors that can be as powerful as the physical addiction.
circlefavshape 10/13/2025||
Or it could be - you figure out why you smoke in the first place, and have to accept that you can never quit
BoredPositron 10/13/2025|||
Because you know why you are smoking because you are addicted to nicotine.
nonethewiser 10/13/2025||
so the symptom is the cause
BoredPositron 10/13/2025||
The cause why you started smoking might have gone away but you are still addicted to the substance. We don't have the same chemical addiction with doom scrolling.
nonethewiser 10/13/2025||
hey man, it was your analogy
BoredPositron 10/13/2025||
And it still stands.
Void_ 10/13/2025||
I've been running dumbified version of iOS for a few months now, and I'm very happy with it.

I removed every 'fun' app except for a few exceptions:

- ChatGPT, but mostly in voice mode, and with other people - as a party trick.

- Whisper Memos (https://whispermemos.com/), I record voice memos and they end up in my email, so I can continue with that idea when I'm on a computer (whether that is a prompt for AI, or a todo.)

- Bevel (https://www.bevel.health/), to track sleep factors, such as whether I wore a nasal strip

- Overcast (https://overcast.fm/), for playing podcasts.

- Liftosaur (http://liftosaur.com/), for tracking gym

- Basics like Banking, EV charging, Maps, Parking, Messages, Weather, Authenticator, Reminders, etc.

I removed App Store as well as Safari, so these apps is all I can do on my iPhone.

In the beginning, I set up a Screen Time code so I wouldn't be able to cheat. But in a few weeks I got used to it. So App Store and Safari are enabled again, but I never use them. (Maybe Safari is disabled. I have no idea to be honest.)

The biggest downside is I never know where my phone is. However, I'll gladly accept this downside.

ge96 10/14/2025||
I think best thing I did with my phone is turning sound off, it doesn't make sound except my alarm, it doesn't vibrate either. Granted I don't have kids/don't work in a place that has on-call.

For computer I'm almost 100% on there all the time whether at work or at home, I can't handle silence. The present thing is funny, when the internet goes out I'm in the present like oh man what do I do.

I think going out and being in nature is good for being present. Watching the ocean/large body of water, huge field, being in a forest, etc...

It is funny how your mind operates where you're always in some state, it's 9 AM I gotta be at work, it's this time I have to do this next... that's what I aim for is not huge wealth (although that'd be nice stealth anyway) but freedom with my own time. Right now from dumb choices I'm burdened with debt so my main reason to continue living is just working to pay bills. Not saying that in a bad way I just realized that, trying to get passion back in something. And my cat gotta care for him.

codyb 10/14/2025||
I keep my phones in the other room on silent all day, don't use anything with an algorithmic infinite feed, don't use social media, and blocked all the news websites I could.

It's amazing to me how many people can't seem to walk down the street these days without staring at their phones the entire time.

I think they're addictive, bad for your mental health and acuity, and bad for society. And it's amazing how much time I'll spend even just checking the two small hobby discords I'm in just cause I've been so tuned towards picking up the phone when bored.

Leaving it in the other room on a speaker is nice cause it at least forces me to get up, and since I keep it on the speaker I don't often sit with it anymore. Which means I do other stuff like read, and clean, and work on things, or just sit and stare at the wall and let my brain breathe.

I still use maps (without location though), check out which helicopters and ships I'm looking at, weather, email, search, and Spanish flashcards through Anki. Which I think are nice activities.

turrican 10/14/2025||
What deck are you using? I’ve been wanting to supplement my Spanish learning with an Anki deck for a while now.
codyb 10/14/2025||
I've been using two decks, adding 20 new cards a day.

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1631165043 - This is 5000 common Spanish words. Be warned, the pictures appear to have been pulled by some sort of automated process and some are risque. That being said, I learn words and then see or hear them fairly quickly while watching baseball en español, o leyendo las noticias o los librose.

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/638411848 - Spanish conjugation. Super hard at first, especially since it starts with the most unique verbs. But patterns emerge, and incredibly useful.

Those two are the only... "formal" work if you can call it that that I'm doing. The rest is writing to friends and notes at work, watching baseball and tv (and with subtitles and audio where possible), reading the news sometimes (still difficult, but has added benefit that I read less news), setting interfaces to Spanish.

My Spanish is really coming along at this point, and it's very cool. Wishing you good luck in your endeavor!! The most important thing is to just stick with it.

turrican 10/15/2025||
Thanks for sharing! Good luck to you as well.
doctorpangloss 10/14/2025||
Ha ha, what is Hacker News?
codyb 10/14/2025||
Yea, I check Hacker News most days once or twice.

On my work computer only. There's a fair amount of professional relevance. I don't think I've clicked the "next page" button in a decade though.

So that sits firmly in the "healthy" category for me.

sgt 10/14/2025||
30 minutes per day on your iPhone each day is insane. I spend 2.5 hrs according to my phone, and that's about 50% necessity and 50% nonsense like Twitter.
zevon 10/14/2025||
May I ask what you do that requires doing it on the phone?

If "necessity" means work-related: On my work-issued iPhone, I call and (briefly) text with people, triage some e-mail, have a look at calendars, take some in-situ photo/video, refer to a few notes, and so on. I don't have the screen time feature turned on but I guess I'm also below 30 minutes on that phone on most days. The exception being traditional voice calls which occasionally can go on for (much) longer than those 30 minutes, depending on what's happening. However, most of my more regular, scheduled conversations happen in real-life or in Zoom, Webex or other such platforms and not on a mobile phone.

The only work-related thing that I can think of OTOH which really required me to use a mobile device is hardware that requires an app to work (which is fortunately still rare).

sgt 10/15/2025||
Basically anything work related (mostly checking email, calendar, Slack, JIRA, etc) that happens when I am not near my computer. Like a lot of people in IT, we're always "at work".
basisword 10/14/2025|||
It's especially amazing because it's so easy to fuck up. Read a few articles on the web. Scroll social media on a lunch break. Watch a video or two on YouTube. Listen to some music. Take care of some banking stuff. Suddenly you're at an hour or two and you've barely noticed. To keep it to 30mins you have to be so intentional.
netdevphoenix 10/14/2025||
Surprised that no one else has highlighted this. In 2025, this is an outlier worth talking about
alchemist1e9 10/13/2025||
A big problem I find is that if you are a family and have kids you basically have to keep up and that means turning on notifications for messages and emails and then of course that leads to opening the phone, reading email, checking HN (obviously) and then posting a comment on it! urghh
wmeredith 10/13/2025||
My high schooler is in theatre and they post critical updates via Instagram. It drives me crazy.

And don't get me started on all the custom apps cluttering my phone that these schools and sports leagues get sold on for sharing flyers and other info (Parent Square, Peach Jar, Playmetrics, Mojo, etc.) I guess it's a feature that most of those apps are not well designed and they don't suck you into addictive engagement loops like the big social media platforms.

coldpie 10/13/2025|||
I don't have kids, so I can't 100% relate, but have you dug into the notifications settings on your phone? They're extremely flexible. I've set mine up so any non-chat notification gets batched into a group that shows at 5 AM and 5 PM. This lets me check on whatever happened the previous evening while I'm having breakfast, and whatever happened during the day after I get home from work. Once I've flipped through all the notifications and done whatever other time wasting things, it goes back in my pocket and largely does not disturb me for another 12 hours.

Maybe something like that could work. If you find there are notifications that are disturbing you, but they really could have waited until the evening, toss 'em in the batch bucket. Eventually you'll tune out all the low-importance stuff and get your life back. Or find some other cadence that works for you. It takes some effort to tune these systems, but I think it's worth it.

titanomachy 10/13/2025||
I'm surprised that no one else I know uses this feature. It's helped me a lot.
titanomachy 10/13/2025|||
I followed the instructions here to cripple my phone using Apple Configurator: https://stopa.io/post/297

Now the browser doesn't work and I can't install new apps. I also turn on "Do Not Disturb" almost all the time, which allows through notifications from exactly 3 people.

jeanofthedead 10/13/2025||
I’m a big fan of the “Reduce Interruptions” focus mode.
ProllyInfamous 10/13/2025|||
I was super-disappointed, attending my recent state townhall meeting, that the only way to participate was scanning a QR code to fill out a survey. After asking for a paper copy (which was never produced), I decided to participate in my own manner:

I stood up and heckled my clown state representatives, for almost an hour, providing audience-appreciated commentary to what I perceive as our failed political system (US bipartisan).

To their toothless grocery sales tax reduction legislation (which'll never pass), I suggested my fellow constituents just shop across the state line, in one of the many nearby grocery stores — just STOP giving our state this money, then maybe they'll consider legislative changes.

Perhaps this fell upon deaf ears, but I wasn't the only audience member frustrated with our legislators' back-patting/inaction. I will vote/shop with my money, elsewhere. I wrote my state officials a letter afterwards, offering common-sense suggestions — hoping this geriatric remembers my participation (he turns 80 soon... just retire already, Congressman!).

alchemist1e9 10/14/2025||
What does this have to do with the post?
ProllyInfamous 10/14/2025||
Needing a cell phone app to participate in democracy (via a QR code).
qmr 10/13/2025||
Nah that's what FRS, GMRS, APRS and LoRA / Meshtastic are for.

Come on, raise your kids right.

aloer 10/13/2025|
I recently tried to put my phone into black & white mode via iPhone accessibility shortcut (triple click on power button)

This did not seem to work for me. I would forget about it and after a while just left it on color.

Now I use a shortcut on the action button. By default my iPhone is black and white, pressing the action button gives me color for two minutes.

The crucial step is that after this time it is automatically switching back to black and white. Even when the phone is locked.

This now seems to actually help. And as a side effect I also enjoy looking at a few things in black and white. A new experience.

All these great ideas for how to prevent you from doing something, they all need to allow me to bypass it when I want to, but they also need to automatically switch back to the “locked” mode.

This needs to be seamless so that the “yes I am sure I want to read this” bypass does not become a new, meaningless habit.

What is also interesting is that apparently, for me, a hard lock-out, a hard disable, is not good enough. Instead, reducing the joy (black & white filter) seems to work much better and does not motivate me to work around the restriction.

I doubt I would be happy with a dumb phone either. So this is a good middle ground.

One other thing I’ve always hoped to see is a kind of scheduled check in with me, where I am asked / reminded to get out of my Netflix / Reddit / YouTube tunnel vision.

Hardware and software to do that is tricky. iOS locked down too much.

But there are today quite capable and cheap Esp32 based smart watches (~$25) and I am trying to figure out how to integrate one of these into my life purely for tunnelvision-interrupting “are you really sure you want to do this right now?” notifications.

I feel privileged to have had a childhood before smartphones. At least I can remember how we used to be.

All of these measures are not because of how it is today but because I am afraid of where we will be a few years from now. Endlessly engaging generated AI content.

Better try to build some boundaries while I still can.

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