Poison, Poison Everywhere

Posted by dividendpayee 3 days ago

Poison, Poison Everywhere(loeber.substack.com)

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Arainach 2 days ago|

>Only a business with this as its core competency is capable of the breadth and depth required for this Herculean task.

It doesn't have to be a business, and it absolutely should not be. Preventing poisoning of people, animals, and the environment is something capitalism has proven utterly incapable of, and in fact (literally) violently opposed to.

This is the kind of thing that needs to be done at the government level. The goal is societal benefit, not profit.

jonstewart 3 days ago||

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DennisP 3 days ago||

Suggesting a connection to Nazi ideology just because someone wants to help people avoid toxins seems a bit over the top to me.

jonstewart 2 days ago||

Oh, I am not at all implying or insinuating this article is connected to populism, nationalism, etc., or advocating for them, nor mean to impugn the author through association. Lead is bad. PFAS and microplastics are bad. Glyphosate maybe is bad. I identify as a mild/moderate environmentalist (while also a mild/moderate yimby; I don’t see a necessary contradiction).

But to be more explicit, I think there’s an undercurrent of Blood and Soil at work in the USA today, it’s seen a little bit explicitly in MAHA, and I’m worried, a lot, about the future political implications, where the real damage we’ve done to the environment becomes an excuse for… more bad things.

luxuryballs 2 days ago||

sounds like you accidentally consumed media poisoned with FUD and propaganda, having a federal department of health or food for your nation is nationalist, running it properly and keeping it away from corporate influence is anti-fascist, the modern day fascism is when corruption steers the health department away from serving the people’s health and instead locking it towards allowing “big pharma” to dictate regulations and review for their own benefit at the expense of the people’s taxes and health, the irony is watching the people trying to dismantle this fascism being called fascists

jonstewart 2 days ago||

I did read Upton Sinclair’s The Jungle, it’s true.

kragen 3 days ago|||

What's the relationship?

dcre 3 days ago||

I have no problem with calling out fascists but I don’t see any connection here.

weregiraffe 2 days ago|

What's worse, damage from lead or damage from constant obsession about lead?

lccerina 2 days ago||

Damage from lead. The 'obsession' here is that the right level of lead in any product should be ZERO. There should be international pacts, like what was done for gases destroying the ozone layer, to remove lead entirely from products

lkuty 2 days ago|||

This raises the interesting point of finding a balance between knowing/searching and letting go when it comes to health. Lead is a major one but obession about health can lead to anxiety, stress. I think that finding the major factors that affect health is what matters (sunlight, sleep, walking, cooking with stainless steel, etc.) and letting go of all the minor details. This is an issue that has been close to my heart for years, and my perspective on it has changed over time. Anxiety can be a real problem.

anal_reactor 2 days ago||

At some point you're bound to reach the point of diminishing returns

garretraziel 2 days ago|||

Damage from lead.

pjc50 2 days ago||

Lead is actually dangerous. Arguably the panic from things which are .. much less well evidenced, shall we say, causes people to overlook the real problems.