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Posted by HiPHInch 10/27/2025

You are how you act(boz.com)
332 points | 185 commentspage 2
conartist6 10/27/2025|
Hey, wow, a think piece that didn't even say the word "AI".
pixel_popping 10/27/2025|
good piece, I've immediately pasted everything to Sonnet 4.5 to get additional reasoning about it.
vhantz 10/27/2025||
> “Fake it until you make it” is often dismissed as shallow, but it’s closer to Franklin’s truth. Faking it long enough is making it. The repetition of behavior, not the sincerity of belief, is what shapes character. You become the kind of person who does the things you repeatedly do.

Then you become the kind of person who fakes things?

skeaker 10/27/2025||
I have read it in the past as a way to deal with imposter syndrome. You push past it by believing that you're tricking the system by faking it despite your own perceived inadequacy, when in fact you are performing perfectly fine. You do this until the results of your work are evident enough to ward off imposter syndrome. If you are indeed doing bad fake work then I guess this would fall apart, yes.
freedomben 10/27/2025||
Exactly, and it has the potential to really burn others as well as yourself, when they do their work/job on top of what you claimed you had. I am not a fan of the "fake it til you make it" approach.
daveaiello 10/27/2025||
We see this around us every day, in every way.

I just realized that you can connect the two with another maxim that we've all heard a million times:

The perfect is the enemy of the good.

This puts further weight behind the intellectual arrow that embodies Franklin's ideals.

mooreds 10/27/2025||
I enjoyed the post. I accept that it's a bit weird coming from a Facebook exec (ad hominem, etc).

What I found particularly insightful is the point that we have a double standard. I judge myself by my intentions and others by their actions. I'd seen this before, but never tied to historical thinkers.

One way to work around this is to ask yourself "what would I think if I saw a friend doing X" where X is what you intend to do. Of course, most folks are more forgiving of a friend than a stranger, but even that small amount of distance and perspective can help you make a better decision.

raverbashing 10/27/2025||
Remember the Franklin thinking is used by several people to do "good deed math", meaning they do good to justify other crappy attitudes they have elsewhere
yunruse 10/27/2025||
"Good deed math" feels like it drives legitimacy from some intrinsic sense of 'goodness', which to my ken looks de-emphasised in Franklin's model. Each act is a deed unto itself: a good deed and a bad deed do not counteract or excuse one another in some cosmic calculus.

The only link is the person -- that their acts inform their thoughts and habits, which informs future acts. In this case "good deed math" is likely a post-hoc rationalisation, predicted by the Franklin model but not exactly encouraged.

benregenspan 10/27/2025|||
At least that involves good deeds. This article actually seems to pervert it into a hustle culture thing. His beliefs and values don't matter, it doesn't matter that he became a devoted abolitionist in his later life, what matters is that he got out there and built stuff.
aDyslecticCrow 10/27/2025||
just because some people pervert the concept doesn't invalidate the concept.

A good and a bad doesn't make a neutral.

ruszki 10/27/2025||
> you can always decide what to do next.

I think everybody can find examples from their life when this was not true. And not even just simple one like a reaction to a flying object towards your face, but some high level impulses, like when I was in love, I definitely couldn’t control my acts completely. Of course, I was still responsible for my acts, but they were only instincts, no real thinking was involved.

delichon 10/27/2025||
> We begin pure and only fail because society, obligation, or expectation pulls us away from who we truly are.

s/pulls us away from/reveals

cgriswald 10/27/2025|
Your substitution would make that sentence nonsensical. We can’t begin pure and through action be revealed to actually be impure.

Both Rousseau’s and Franklin’s views have utility. One requires one to express one’s inherent goodness. The other defines whether one is good by whether they do good acts. These both promote good acts.

Taking inherent nature from Rousseau but ascribing bad acts to that inherent nature just means no one is truly responsible for their actions. If they are good they do good. If they are bad it is because they are bad. Anyone believing they are just “a bad person” has no reason to even try to be good except to avoid consequences. It’s a bigger cop out than “society made me” while simultaneously puritanical in ignoring the role of outside influence like society.

thehours 10/27/2025||
This reminded me of this passage from Anxiety Is the Dizziness of Freedom by Ted Chiang:

> None of us are saints, but we can all try to be better. Each time you do something generous, you're shaping yourself into someone who's more likely to be generous next time, and that matters.

aitchnyu 10/27/2025|
The soul takes on the color of its thoughts - Marcus Aurelius. In context, he wrote about the reams of thoughts that fly in our heads and how we automatically rubber stamp most of them as "true".
allemagne 10/27/2025||
>The modern American self is best defined by two Enlightenment thinkers who never met but have been arguing in our heads ever since.

This reads to me a little like: "The distracted boyfriend meme can be found at the helm of the Western mind whenever we encounter betrayal and disloyalty."

I get that this is more of a trope or a shorthand than literally saying that a certain thinker invented the idea of a good person being defined by their actions, but to me it's worth saying that these concepts and ideas are probably as timeless as language, not something invented a few hundred years ago, not something invented by Plato.

begueradj 10/27/2025|
>"The repetition of behavior, not the sincerity of belief, is what shapes character"

To perform behavior X repeatedly and consciously for a long time, you have to have a belief (whether it is good or bad). Hence it is the sincerity of belief which shapes character.

Like when you wash yourself every now and then: you repeat that because you have a belief that keeping yourself clean is useful. Without that belief, you won't waste your time on that. Behavior is just an expression of a belief.

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